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Old 12-23-10, 10:45 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Skybird View Post
Thats says nothing, August. With that statement you can excuse abandoning any legal standards or basic principles of justice in Western traditions' understanding completely. You can even excuse electroshocks or stage-tribunals like the Volksgerichtshof with that.

Formally he has not been found guilty of any crime, his guilt has not been proven at court, or am I wrong? That means he must be assumed innocent, for the time being - a vital principle of all Wetsern legal systems that is. In dubio pro reo. The guilt must be proven, not the innocence.

And even if he is found guilty of a crime, this does not justify the legal system striking back at him by the means of psychic or physical torture. At least as long as the claims of America for what principles it stands still have any meaning.

Justice and law enforcement - are something totally different than revenge. Cruelty by the authorities - must and shall have zero space in any legal system worth that name.
First you're assuming any of these claims are true Skybird. Do you have any proof of this from a halfway neutral source or should we just take his lawyers claims as gospel?

Second, from the description his life in prison awaiting courts-martial is still far easier than the lives of his fellow soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq who he has put at increased risk by publishing their operational details for our enemies to read and learn from.

Third, TV time and regular showers do not compare to electro shocks or kangaroo courts and i'm kind of insulted that you'd actually try to extend my statement to include them. Why not just claim that any incarceration at all is a violation of his rights and let the little traitor go free right?
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