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Originally Posted by sidslotm
Faith and belief go hand in hand and are the same in everyone
A lot of leaders in Church today have trouble in believing, how can that be.
Because the fruits of belief are not there. What are the fruits of believing, light bulbs, mad people flying flimsey aircraft across the Atlantic, the idea of walking on the moon. These events are the fruits of Faith and belief in action, God has given every one of us a portion of this Faith, it's in the bible some where, you'll have to look it up yourself, lol.
The unbeliever or even the athiest believes in God more than he realizes, probable more than most middle class church leaders do today. When Jesus was teaching the people about faith and belief, the example that God gave the people was not a Church leader or elder, but a centurion soldier, a man who understood and practiced faith and belief every day, you don't get more radical than that. The church today is about control and law, the very things that Jesus came to free us from. Every religion is just that, religion nothing more.  faith and belief are about people
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Not gonna look the verse up, but doe's state God has given each man a measure of faith. I guess some he gave very little, so they ended up using logic, so who's faults that.
Faith has much to do with culture, tradition fear, guilt and the way we're raised as it doe's anything. Maybe faith was pushed so much in biblical times due to the lack of science. You have to remember many scientist back then were murdered by the church for using logic over faith.
Sometimes I think faith is confused with fear as most religions see God as the pagans did, standing over us with a big club ready to smash us at will, then torture us forever when we die. Most religions, including Christianity believe the mass of humanity will end up being tortured for enternity.....just for being born.
Many atheist prefer to say " I just don't know." Even though I still find enough faith to say God is possible often my doubtful heart says the same.
Bill Mayer often confuses me, he'll state that theere is no God, but when he gets serious he'll comment..."I just don't know."
It appears to me your talking about man having faith in himself, not God..?