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Originally Posted by August
The only people i've ever met who've come off acting superior or intolerant about their beliefs (or lack of them) are atheists.
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I've seen more than one case of self-proclaimed Christians doing that right here on Subsim. No, they weren't trying to convert anybody, but they certainly had their share of disdain for anyone not them, including but not limited to Atheists. I agree it's human nature, but in my experience it applies to all humans, myself included.
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If you really believe that then why the Demotivator pic about atheists "Winning since 33 AD"?
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I can't speak for Dowly, but I would say "because it's funny".
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What you and Epicurus do realize apparently do not realize is that Gods real gift to humanity is not security but rather free will. You cannot guarantee the former without eliminating the latter.
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In this I completely agree. If man is not free to choose evil then there is no point in being good, as there would be no "good" or "evil". My only disagreement is whether it actually comes from God or from our innate capacity for reason.
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Originally Posted by Armistead
How do we have free will, aren't we born doomed already?
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How so? Why would you make that connection?
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Do you think man always had freewill, spiritually speaking? If not, when did he gain it?
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. What is your opinion on the subject?