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Old 11-24-10, 02:51 PM   #35
tater
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Originally Posted by Armistead View Post
I'd give them plenty of tax breaks if they weren't allowed to buy off congress and write any regulation they pleased.

Corporate CEO to Lawyer " Damn, 10% more taxes"

Lawyer to CEO "Yea, but 200% increased profits"

You do the math.
I see no math to do. You're not "showing your work" you're just making up numbers.

People complaining about the "rich" always argue using some CEO who makes 100 million a year (or even just a few million). Meanwhile, people I consider "upper middle class" can make 500k a year, and to them the extra 25k in taxes (the 5% Bush tax cut about to expire) really matters. It's not like at 500k money is no object. That 25k is money that might be spent on a remodel of the house (employing people), or private school (2 kids private school = 25k). It's non-trivial. And those same people already pay ~155k$ in federal taxes (then more state). These are people that work for a living.

Say surgeons that work on average maybe 80 hours a week or more (depending on how you count call). General surgeons here, for example, make around 230k. That puts them square in the top 20%. They pay ~60 grand in fed taxes. The average income in the 4th quint is 85k. They pay ~15k in fed taxes. So they take home 70k (ignore state for this for easy math). the General surgeon therefore works the equivalent of 2 jobs, and takes home <2.5X the pay of someone making 85k a year. That's a tiny increase for losing that much time. They also pay 4X the taxes. They work twice as hard, get paid 2.4X as much, and pay 6X the taxes. That Bush 5% is 10 grand. Sorry, but at 200k a year, 10k is a lot of money. It's not money you don't notice.

All the "rich" (most in fact) earn well under a million, and money is absolutely still "an object" to them (and they WORK, too. Hard). I call the real rich people who don't think about money when buying. That's maybe the top 1%. Maybe fewer.
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