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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

We have conflicting stories:



She was missing her tongue. Page 3 link says the tongue was decaying? To me a missing tongue means it was cut out judging by the others in the group that were beaten to death. It was a brutal attack. Normally when the 'aliens' attack there is precision removal of eyes and internal organs. At least we see that here in the states when animals are mutilated without any reason as to why and by who. Yet in this case we have cracked skulls, broken ribs and missing tongues. Perhaps the tongue was a trophy? One never knows.

No no no no, we don't have anything conflicting, read the whole thing.

Right, (I say 'right' alot don't I? ) all but the 4 bodies that were found later on were found near the pine tree and between the tree and the camp, all died of hypothermia.

The 4 bodies found later on were in the bottom of a 3-5m ravine, the fall might explain the injuries.

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How deep was the ravine in which the final four victims were found? Could a natural fall account for their injuries?

The short answer is the ravine was quite deep and the injuries could have easily been caused by the fall. The following is part of an e-mail from Dr. Vladimir B. (a member of the original rescue team) regarding this point:
“The slope of a ravine had a range of heights from 3 up to 5 m (10m or 17 ft) in the general area where the skiers were found. It had an incline or angle of approximately 30 to 40 degrees. The opposite slope of the ravine was flat. The width of the ravine was approximately 40 metres or 130ft. It is quite possible that the injuries recorded could have been sustained by a “sudden” fall – especially given the fact that these people would have been tired and have had limited visibility."

What are the details of the skull injury experienced by Nicolas Thibeaux-Brignollel? This information alone could go a very long way to solving the mystery. For example, is it an impact injury or a comprehensive pressure injury? Was there retinal detachment? Was he alive or dead when it happened?

This information was apparently very precisely recorded by the Judicial Doctor (Coroner) at the time. He recorded that such a head injury was most likely to have been caused by impact with a rock as a result of a fall from a height of 2 – 3 metres (6 to 10ft) but not more. The reason for this is that impacts of this kind only occur at a velocity of up to 7 – 8 Metres per second. Faster impact speeds generally cause a break (breach) at the apex or arch of the skull with little evident trauma to the base. In the case of Nicolas Thibeaux-Brignollel there was no apex related damage. In addition, the forensic evidence suggests that he was alive when he sustained the injury.
It was almost certainly caused by impact and not pressure. According to our information sources the pressure required to create such an injury would have had to be not less than 1 – 1.5 tons. There was no material or evidence of materials that could have caused this pressure. However, by virtue of the process of dynamics such an injury could easily be sustained through impact.
Finally, there was also no recorded evidence that the injury had been sustained as a result of a concussion blast which would have caused additional physical trauma to the bodies and which was not found on any of the unfortunate individuals involved.

What about the absence of Dubanina’s tongue. Many websites discussing this event claim that it was ripped out. Is this true?

It is true that her tongue and parts of her oral cavity were missing when she was discovered two months after the event. This aspect has led people to see a bizarre aspect to this incident that is wholly unjustified. The reality is that her tongue was not ripped out but was degraded though the activity of micro flora and fauna. We now know that this was fully acknowledged at the time (1959),