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Old 11-23-10, 04:48 AM   #26
NeonSamurai
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Not really it doesn't mean normal people would not make the morally wrong choices but the guilt must be there. Men are fallible psychopathic or not. Just easier for the first and they never fail not to fail his fellow men.

Also there's primary psychopath and secondary psychopath. When a psychopath rules a country for example essentially he is making much of his population to be secondary psychopath themselves. The population is forced to be harsh and selfish. Survival of the fittest is perhaps the best motto for a psychopath though technically I'd think their traits are a disability.
There is no such thing as primary and secondary psychopaths, its a disorder that you either do have or don't have. You can't turn someone into a psychopath. I can also point to several countries where the rulers are in fact not psychopathic, and such behavior exists in the general populace either due to social norms of that society, or extreme distress (warfare, starvation, etc)

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Not good if you're in the US I read 1 out of 5 in US are psychopathic.

It's much better in Britain. Like every 1 out of 10 or 20 can't really remember.

read those on local newspaper I think years ago.
I think that newspaper is full of it. For one thing no research I know of shows any difference in population levels of psychopathic individuals between countries or levels of development. I am also not aware of any professional quoting those kinds of numbers. 1% of the population is the estimate given by Dr. Hare who is the foremost expert in the field.


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@Neon Samurai I don't think psychopath have no feelings just that they have no soul. They may be excited or even takes pleasure at causing others suffering and they could be made angry for sure and I bet most are proud about themselves too besides impatient and resentful especially for the unsuccessful psychopaths. This alone proves they do have feelings just so twisted they are not normal. They have been termed the human predators. if normal people are like gun then psychopaths are guns without safety switch . . . . but they think that is their advantage. They are people without control since they have no conscience they are unleashed without boundaries only desires to be fulfilled. In short I'd think them as animal because animals are driven solely by their desires and proceed to do thing soley basing on their wants. But then again I've seen animals displaying benevolent deeds and showing long term gratitude and affection.

The thing is what made a psychopath a psychopath is it a defective gene traits much like autism(autism has been found to be the result of mutating genes)? Or cultural or social pressure? or abusive past experience?
I am not going to get into religious concepts such as souls. I am going strictly by the scientific research available, which goes against most of what you have said, and say above. Frankly I think a large part of that video is full of it, and I would like to see the evidence and research that the author has (if any) to back up the claims made. Frankly if you are going to make such claims yourself I would like to see the research that backs up your statements (and no that video, nor do popular books count, I want empirical research). I'll be happy to cite references for mine.

As for causes, it is either genetic, or in utero brain damage (infection maybe?) from the currently available data. Signs of psychopathy show up at a very early age (setting fires, torturing and killing animals, lack of emotions, lack of fear/anxiety), and environment seems to play little part in it (there are several psychopaths that have come from perfectly loving and otherwise happy homes, and plenty of people who were abused to unimaginable levels that did not become psychopathic). We do know that it is not caused by "Or cultural or social pressure? or abusive past experience?". As I have said a few times now, they are born not made.
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