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Skybird · 11-21-10, 06:23 AM

I always had my doubts on interpreting dream "symbols" as long as it are no "great dreams" in Jung's sense of archetypes. And these are rare. And schematically using encyclopedias on normal dream symbols is - well, it puts a smile on my face, but that does not indicate agreement.

If you think your mind is not just redigesting the experiences of your imminent past, but the dream stays on your mind and you think it "means" something:
Find a real person you can talk to and who is in knowledge of how Gestalt-work is dealing with dreams. It makes much more sense. In brief, what you asked for is to deal with your dream as if it were something different from you, that happened to you from the outside, with you and the elements of the dream being separates. Gestalt dreamwork means to understand that all experience of whatever it is, is within us, is made and created by us, and cannot be seen as sepaarte from us. Thus, you do not interpret external symbols, but you identify yourself with every element of the dream, and try to find out what the whole story looks like from that perspective. You do not have dreams: you are dreams.

1. You tell/remember your dream: "I had a dream of person X doing deed Y, in place Z.

2. You make the past the present: "I dream of X doing Y, in Z."

3. You overcome the separation. "I am X , now I am the process of the deed Y taking place, now I am the location Z where it happens."

How does it feel when you are that person? How does it feel to be the process of walking, what does it make you to think? How does it feel to be the road that gets walked on? What kind of road is it? What do you think about the guy walking on you? Where do you, the road, start, where do you lead? Etc etc.

Give every element of the dream - persons, objects, animals - a voice, like in a fairy tale. Identify yourself with every element. In the end, they all are you indeed: it is you dreaming, it is your mind forming these images. And nobody slid a chipcard into your brain with preloaded stuff like standardised dream symbols.

If you would do Freudian dream analysis, you soon would see Mr. and Mrs. Sexus everywhere and in everything anyhow.

Interpreting dream symbols is fascinating and tempting. But most often it is a waste of time, and sometimes even a trap. You need to realise that the dream, every part of it, is you. Your mind does not speak to you as if it were any different from "you". You ARE your mind.

I think of some, reactive diseases, both physical and psychological, the same way, for example if they are stress-induced. People have no depressions - they ARE the depression. They have no cancer - they ARE cancer. Accordingly: you do not get rid of the depression, but yourself is changing. You do not get rid of that cancer, but it is yourself changing.

11-21-10, 06:23 AM	#12
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,655 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I always had my doubts on interpreting dream "symbols" as long as it are no "great dreams" in Jung's sense of archetypes. And these are rare. And schematically using encyclopedias on normal dream symbols is - well, it puts a smile on my face, but that does not indicate agreement. If you think your mind is not just redigesting the experiences of your imminent past, but the dream stays on your mind and you think it "means" something: Find a real person you can talk to and who is in knowledge of how Gestalt-work is dealing with dreams. It makes much more sense. In brief, what you asked for is to deal with your dream as if it were something different from you, that happened to you from the outside, with you and the elements of the dream being separates. Gestalt dreamwork means to understand that all experience of whatever it is, is within us, is made and created by us, and cannot be seen as sepaarte from us. Thus, you do not interpret external symbols, but you identify yourself with every element of the dream, and try to find out what the whole story looks like from that perspective. You do not have dreams: you are dreams. 1. You tell/remember your dream: "I had a dream of person X doing deed Y, in place Z. 2. You make the past the present: "I dream of X doing Y, in Z." 3. You overcome the separation. "I am X , now I am the process of the deed Y taking place, now I am the location Z where it happens." How does it feel when you are that person? How does it feel to be the process of walking, what does it make you to think? How does it feel to be the road that gets walked on? What kind of road is it? What do you think about the guy walking on you? Where do you, the road, start, where do you lead? Etc etc. Give every element of the dream - persons, objects, animals - a voice, like in a fairy tale. Identify yourself with every element. In the end, they all are you indeed: it is you dreaming, it is your mind forming these images. And nobody slid a chipcard into your brain with preloaded stuff like standardised dream symbols. If you would do Freudian dream analysis, you soon would see Mr. and Mrs. Sexus everywhere and in everything anyhow. Interpreting dream symbols is fascinating and tempting. But most often it is a waste of time, and sometimes even a trap. You need to realise that the dream, every part of it, is you. Your mind does not speak to you as if it were any different from "you". You ARE your mind. I think of some, reactive diseases, both physical and psychological, the same way, for example if they are stress-induced. People have no depressions - they ARE the depression. They have no cancer - they ARE cancer. Accordingly: you do not get rid of the depression, but yourself is changing. You do not get rid of that cancer, but it is yourself changing. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 11-21-10 at 06:38 AM.