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Old 11-14-10, 06:21 PM   #11
Castout
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Both heart AND HEAD, please. Moralists alone imo have committed more crime and barbarism throughout history, than labelled villains or bright minds. To me, "moralist" almost is an invective. Like I differ between honour (good) and pride (bad), I differ between ethics and morals. And moralists being proud of their morals, without doubt are amongst the most despicable types of humans there are, like people feeling ethically responsible beyond themselves and understanding that as part of their sense of honour, appear to be amongst the most noble ones.

Du brauchst mehr als nur die Liebe,
dein Herz braucht den Verstand,
denn sonst ist die größte Liebe
wie ein Zimmer ohne Wand.

Well the world knows moralists who are not moral

That the only kind of moralist that I despise.
I don't think a proud man would be proud of his moral it just would not make any sense at all. I can't see moral as something that one can be proud of. But the world is filled with funny people indeed . . . . so who knows.

Pride is not always a bad thing. Excessive pride stemming from ego is bad but ordinary people should have pride in their life. Whether it is pride for their country(the other term is patriotism), their work or dedication to their work(called passion), their family or spouse(called commitment) ,their God(not religion, and and it differs from fanaticism and it's called glorifying God of course must be with reason). One with pride can actually work and persevere better than those without and able to take a stand when a stand is needed.

My rule of thumb for checking pride is not doing to others what you wouldn't want to receive yourself.

Above most people I have known about excessive pride all too well considering my ordeal in a certain city state. It's not only sickening but maddening. Pride from ego is equal to madness and pure stupidity imo and a mark of childish and shallow character and insecurities and lack of self esteem.

Well as for Head and hearts, don't we all know what George Bush Jr looks like? :-P
He's not exactly an imbecile. I'm not saying that a leader doesn't need a brilliant mind but a political leader must above all be held accountable for his policies and decisions. I'd rather have a not so bright political leader than a bright leader turned dictator or WORSE a not so bright leader turned dictator. As long as one doesn't turn into a despot or dictator it's quite acceptable to me.

As for love like a room without wall when the heart is not accompanied with the mind well I think only the divine(God) is able to love without limitation and it's not because God doesn't have a mind and only heart but because He knows all too well than the average of mankind , no all too well than all people(I know this for a fact actually). So God loves the smallest of a person who doesn't even know Him at all and for that one occasion who practiced a form of shamanism, a well taboo for religious people.
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