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Old 11-14-10, 05:50 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
Perfect anology, you are talking about two very similar parties that are both part of the interchangable mainstream establishhment. If you want "far left" you have to look at one of the many fringe parties you have over there which end up with a miniscule vote in elections.
No, you cannot even compare parties that do not compete with each other in different systems (US vs everywhere else on earth). They are not the same, play in different arenas, and more importantly, no american cares.

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errrrrr....I hate to break it to ya but in the US you have hundreds of political parties, wouldn't hundreds of parties equal a myriad
We have 2 parties that win in national elections in any meaningful way. the rest combined are statistically insignificant. If your voting record is on the left extreme of the democrats, you are "far left" in US politics, period. Ditto, "far right" if you vote far right relative to Rs. All americans will understand this continuum, and we don't care what you think about it. There is no "real" right/left metric, so any attribution is subjective. Given this, the one that US voters (no one else) understand is the only meaningful metric.

So any 3d parties are define solely (in the US) based on their position relative to the 2 "real" parties. Democrats that are left enough of center in the US are "far left." Anyone at or past that displacement from center is also far left. Mirror on the right.


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Perfect, yet you are choosing to ignore US politics and US political parties to get that measure which is why the "far left" claim is pure nonsense.
Why don't you post some irish political threads? US politics is US politics. You can pretend that 3d parties are meaningful, or that the position of US pols vs world parties matter all you like. It's just not meaningful in the US. Yammer away, by all means, in 300,000,000 americans, maybe you'll find a handful that agree with you.
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