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Your pity was not asked for, nor did I try to excuse "Mitläufer" and free them of their share of guilt - I have accused silent Mitläufer of their share of guilt myself often enough, in context both with the Nazigerman and the Muhammeddan communities. But my grandfathers both were neither Nazis, nor did they feel explicitly nationalistic - not back then, and not in the decades later. Neither had them voted for the Nazis to come to power, nor did they bring or wish to bring more nationalism to Germany than Western nations in general ticked nationalistic back in that era. And still they turned out to be victims of circumstances that - different to your claim - they, like many others, had not opted for to bring to themselves or to Germany.
This is not to excuse Naszis, or "Mitläufer", I have attacked Mitläufer myself often enough for their share of guilt in making given cirucmstances lasting on, in debates with contexts of both Nazi-Germany and Muhammeddan societies. I just want to correct this stupid polarising and stereotyping of "all Germans were Nazis". That is an extremely simplifying claim. Many Germans were turned into victims of the tryanny, too - by ideological abuse and indoctrination of the young generation, and the suffering and killing of the civilians in the cities who got killed later in the war, and many families loosing the mere basis of their existence, too. There were Nazis. There were Mitläufer. And there were innocents. The first two got dleivered what they asked for, and what they maybe deserved. The latter - were victims, like the many victims of Nazi war and Nazi terror throughout Europe.
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Now question for Skybird.
Why when i asked of you to point out on where i missed something you remain silent? We could have a normal discussion for change, instead i have to deal with some random and desperate cry baby
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