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Old 11-05-10, 12:17 PM   #10
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"As somebody that has been in a situation where they are not insured I can assure you it would help a lot of us."
"People like me and my mother could have a much higher standard of life if we passed a universal health care bill."
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship." - Author Unknown (often attributed to Alexander Tyler)

Understand that I am not slamming you personally gimpy. However your statements prove the above quote to be true. Its a human reaction. The reality that we have a republic, and that it (the people) see the collapse coming and are trying to avoid it.

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"We would be paying taxes on it just the same as you. and you would also have health insurance as well. Guaranteed."
Yes - your right. However, do you really think the taxes paid will actually cover all the costs of health care for all Americans? Because insurance is that you pay a little - and someone else - in this case - the government - would pay the rest. So you think the taxes from all the citizens would be sufficient to pay for all the health care that all the citizens need? If not - then you run a deficit - meaning that the government has to take (steal) money from other places and programs, or go into debt. If you look at the history of the government and its administation of social programs, like medicare - you can see that it will mismanage the program and will run a deficit. This is why "universal healthcare" is a bad idea - because it cannot be paid for.

I feel bad for you - but there are already a slew of social programs that offer people in similiar situations help. Look into it. But ask your mom about what happens when you don't pay the bills you have - sooner or later it all comes crashing down. Are there some good things in this bill? Sure, but the good is vastly outweighed by the bad. It needs to be redone. 2800+ pages - and how many "good things" can you name?
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