SUBSIM Radio Room Forums - View Single Post

Twelvefield · 10-13-05, 02:54 AM

A long time ago, in a previous thread, we more or less came to the same conclusions you did:

1) The game developers' sense of realism is a bit different from "real" realism. From what I recall, we figured that 85-90% game realism was about equal to 100% realism for a real u-boat, while playing the game at 100% realism was maybe 120% of reality, if you can imagine that. On the one hand, it may represent the developers' lack of knowledge of English idiom, while on the other hand, in a much more practical sense, the amount of reality you choose is directly related to the percentage of the full score you get for doing things in the game.

2) As for the hydrophones, and their officer, the equipment you get out of the game box is, in my opinion, sub-par. The same goes for the mapping tools. The good news is that game mods go a long way to fixing these issues.

3) The same issue above is also related to convoys. The ones that come with the vanilla game seem like mere placeholders compared to convoys you can get from mods. Some of the ship behavior issues, however, are hard-coded into the game, and can't be changed without the public release of the Software Developer's Kit (SDK).

4) Lastly, the graphics are definitely sweet, but they are immeasurably improved by -- you guessed it -- more mods.

If you like research, there's plenty of good threads advising you on individual mods, and which websites are the best to downlaod them for free. If you prefer to dive into things, I would suggest downloading Beery's Real U-Boat (RUB) mod, which is a compilation of many fine game mods. You can go through the RUB read-me file to see which mods do exactly what in the file, to help you research which mods you may or may not want. Also very good is Beery's SH3Commander, which is a stand-alone program that will enhance the career of your u-boat crew, and which allows you to make some basic tweaks to the game engine.

Lastly, do not install a mod without a copy of JSGME, which is an excellent mod-management utility for installing and de-installing your mods!!

10-13-05, 02:54 AM	#6
Twelvefield Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 186 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A long time ago, in a previous thread, we more or less came to the same conclusions you did: 1) The game developers' sense of realism is a bit different from "real" realism. From what I recall, we figured that 85-90% game realism was about equal to 100% realism for a real u-boat, while playing the game at 100% realism was maybe 120% of reality, if you can imagine that. On the one hand, it may represent the developers' lack of knowledge of English idiom, while on the other hand, in a much more practical sense, the amount of reality you choose is directly related to the percentage of the full score you get for doing things in the game. 2) As for the hydrophones, and their officer, the equipment you get out of the game box is, in my opinion, sub-par. The same goes for the mapping tools. The good news is that game mods go a long way to fixing these issues. 3) The same issue above is also related to convoys. The ones that come with the vanilla game seem like mere placeholders compared to convoys you can get from mods. Some of the ship behavior issues, however, are hard-coded into the game, and can't be changed without the public release of the Software Developer's Kit (SDK). 4) Lastly, the graphics are definitely sweet, but they are immeasurably improved by -- you guessed it -- more mods. If you like research, there's plenty of good threads advising you on individual mods, and which websites are the best to downlaod them for free. If you prefer to dive into things, I would suggest downloading Beery's Real U-Boat (RUB) mod, which is a compilation of many fine game mods. You can go through the RUB read-me file to see which mods do exactly what in the file, to help you research which mods you may or may not want. Also very good is Beery's SH3Commander, which is a stand-alone program that will enhance the career of your u-boat crew, and which allows you to make some basic tweaks to the game engine. Lastly, do not install a mod without a copy of JSGME, which is an excellent mod-management utility for installing and de-installing your mods!!