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Old 10-29-10, 12:14 PM   #7
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Here we see the not so strange bedfellows of the religious. There have been other occasions where the Catholic reaction to perceived blasphemy against Islam has been to attack blasphemy as the problem, not the insane Muslim reaction to it.

We see the same in domestic politics where the hyper-religious wish for an easing of separation of church and state (prayers in school, or religious "just-so" stories taught as science), not realizing or not caring that this is an open door for islam to demand equal time in the future since setting a "state" church is something that even they realize is illegal, so there can never be allowances for Christian beliefs in the US without also allowing Islam to have equal time... a terrible spiral to begin.
Yes, the Catholic church supports Islam in the West so massively becasue it hopes to win back terrain in respectability and recognition if as a side-effect of boosting public acceptance for Islam, acceptance for the church's claim for authority hopefully should come along as well. But that is not only a strange union, but also a terrible misconception. Maybe the chrcub would will to coexist with Muhammad'S reincarnations - but Muhammad coexists with other cultures only as long as he is not powerfull enough to destroy and subjugate them.

Christian priests I certainly do not expect to understand this. They all too often conclude on the other by their own motivation.

Pat Condell has it absolutely right when he says that if you want to fight against Islam in the West, then you need to fight against religion in general - including the church. The Vatican needed until 1994 (that is just 16 years ago!) to rehabilitate Gallilei in full - what else is there that needs to be known about the church in order to understand what one is dealing with when talking about the church...?

Submission to Islam or to the Catholic dogma, that does not seem to be that important to the Vatican, I soemtrimes think. That people are made unfree again, and get subjuigated to any theistic dogma, no matter what it is - that seems to be what counts for the church. Tyranny is soemthing that the church is not unfamiliar with, totalitarian control it has practiced itself, and is prone to practice until today. The greatest evil it can imagine is not a rivalling, inhumane religiuon - but the absence of any theistic submission, the unbwillingness of free human mind to bow to the undeserved claim that theistic dogmas are to be respected and are representative for the only true truth.

Blasphemy laws and laws forbidding criticism of religions, no matter which ones, are unacceptable and incompatible with human dignity and the freedom of human thought and independence of human mind. It must be fought against, unconditionally. There are conflicts were compromise is not possible without self-destruction. This conflict of freedom versus blasphemy laws is one of these.
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