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Originally Posted by MH
A comunity of educated Muslims that goes to mosque instead of church on sunday or simply fast on Ramadan would still be a problem?
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Islam is not "Christianity oriental style", but a totally different, alien hierarchy of values and goals. The problem is not the question of polite manners and praying on Sunday or Friday, but the content of a totalitarian ideology that is deeply inhumane in itself and promotes slavery of women and subjugation or killing of infidels, in order to acchieve monocultural purity. Jesus' message and Muhammad's message - in no way compare. They are totally antagonistic. The one talked against violence. The other declared violence a mandatory duty.
Especially from Iran there come a lot of very educated, quite burgoise people to Germany, many of them flee from the autocratic tyranny they have there. The question then is whether they are willing enough to leave behind certain key aspects of Islam that are incompatible with Western constitutions and valuie systems and the tradition of Western humanism. Some are like that, some or not.
Islam is different from Christianity, not only by content, but by structure as well, you cannot alter and reform and modify it that easily without bringing the whole conceotion of Islam to fall. That is why I say Islam must not be reformed and modenrised, but overcome. They should define themselves on with what top replace it, else it will not find legitimation amongst them. Their choices on what they reject in Islam and to what degree they embrace Western values if they want to live here and contribute to our nations and societies, shall decide whether we welcome them, or not.
But that they have to integrate in full in our socieites, and that not we need to chnage oursaelves in order to adapt to them- this condition is non-negotiable for me. Whenever there is a conflict between the value system they have brought with them colliding with ours, they have to step down and give it up, because they came to our country - not we went to theirs. I have seen Islamic social orders in a variety on different Muhammeddan countries and their societies, I have been there. And I do not want them one bit in the world that I call my and our home. Islam is no contribution to our cultural life. It is a reduction and eradication of cultural value and diversity.
However. The article is not just aiming at Islam, but religion in general, which amongst the exmained countries means orthodox Christian church in Greece, and Catholic church in Poland.