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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
No, it's a huge difference. But underneath it we still have the same instincts and tendencies. We may be superior animals, but animals nonetheless.
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Exactly
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
Humans arent animals and the method we kill our food has this narcistic moral relevance only to us.
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The method we kill our food has a relevance to animals too. *They* are the ones that have to suffer pain.
Now if the pain were unavoidable, I wouldn't be against it. But the pain is avoidable and thus should be avoided.
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But as methods go the Halal/Kosher method is more painless than many hunting techniques.
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You've got a point there. But hunting is often necessary for protecting certain wildlife populations (here in the Netherlands, that's the only use of hunting that's allowed) (you could argue protecting wildlife by means of active human intervention shouldn't happen, but that's not the point of discussion here). And since it's very hard and cost-ineffective to hunt without hurting animals, the pain isn't really avoidable. So not comparable at all to bred animals that are killed in a controlled environment. Shooting a bullet through a cow's head isn't any harder or more expensive than slitting its throat and let it bleed to death.