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Skybird · 10-07-10, 04:31 PM

I'm saying stop making your enemy strong.

I'm saying stop being intimidated by your enemy and what he might do to you - but only can do at the cost of completely wiping out himself.

I'm saying either go for the throat of your enemy - or pack your things and leave the battlefield and accept to reward him victory.

Since 8 years the war in Afghanistan is halfheartedly being fought - and while we accepted oh so many fears and concerns binding our hands on our backs, the enemy said thank-you and became stronger and kills our troops while we even pay him for doing that, and our minds are occupied not with how to kill and destroy him, but how to not provoke him and how to deonstrate to him that we do not mean serious business and want to save him.

No wonder that Iran pushes on and on. It knows by our own pityful demonstration that we have no determination.

All what I have heared in the past 8 years is a thousand excuses why the war in Afghanistan shall not be fought and shall not be won and why the enemy must be saved. And may I be forgiven - in the first one or two years maybe I even fell for such excuses myself. If that is all the West is capable of, it could have withdrawn in 2002 and leave the place to Pakistan already back then.

Either you will to admit defeat and get your people out there not to see them loosing thewir health and life for nothing, or you start hurting the enemy where it really hurts him. So far, he is laughing and spends our own money we give him on killing our troops, and tankers. Some months ago, in one night 120 fuel-tankers were brought up into flames near the Pakistani capital. If anyone thinks that was possible, to set 120 vehicles ablaze, without the Pakistani military, running tight patrols in and around the capital, knowing it and allowing it, then I cannot help such naivety. That was no artillery attack and no missile barrage striking in just some seconds - that were six men doing it all alone, oin the ground. That needed time. And nobody noted anything over there!? If somebody believes that BS, he can as well believe then that I am the new emperor of China.

The simple point is - nothing the West is doing hurts Pakistan, nothing of it hurts it so sufficently as if they would stop doing what they are doing. They see that the way they run the game serves them well and brings victory closer to them every week. If you continue to accept playing by these rules, not only defeat is guaranteed, but infamy as well. You will leave one day not only as a loser, but as somebody who has made a complete idiot of himself.

Either fight a war right, or don't fight it at all.

10-07-10, 04:31 PM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm saying stop making your enemy strong. I'm saying stop being intimidated by your enemy and what he might do to you - but only can do at the cost of completely wiping out himself. I'm saying either go for the throat of your enemy - or pack your things and leave the battlefield and accept to reward him victory. Since 8 years the war in Afghanistan is halfheartedly being fought - and while we accepted oh so many fears and concerns binding our hands on our backs, the enemy said thank-you and became stronger and kills our troops while we even pay him for doing that, and our minds are occupied not with how to kill and destroy him, but how to not provoke him and how to deonstrate to him that we do not mean serious business and want to save him. No wonder that Iran pushes on and on. It knows by our own pityful demonstration that we have no determination. All what I have heared in the past 8 years is a thousand excuses why the war in Afghanistan shall not be fought and shall not be won and why the enemy must be saved. And may I be forgiven - in the first one or two years maybe I even fell for such excuses myself. If that is all the West is capable of, it could have withdrawn in 2002 and leave the place to Pakistan already back then. Either you will to admit defeat and get your people out there not to see them loosing thewir health and life for nothing, or you start hurting the enemy where it really hurts him. So far, he is laughing and spends our own money we give him on killing our troops, and tankers. Some months ago, in one night 120 fuel-tankers were brought up into flames near the Pakistani capital. If anyone thinks that was possible, to set 120 vehicles ablaze, without the Pakistani military, running tight patrols in and around the capital, knowing it and allowing it, then I cannot help such naivety. That was no artillery attack and no missile barrage striking in just some seconds - that were six men doing it all alone, oin the ground. That needed time. And nobody noted anything over there!? If somebody believes that BS, he can as well believe then that I am the new emperor of China. The simple point is - nothing the West is doing hurts Pakistan, nothing of it hurts it so sufficently as if they would stop doing what they are doing. They see that the way they run the game serves them well and brings victory closer to them every week. If you continue to accept playing by these rules, not only defeat is guaranteed, but infamy as well. You will leave one day not only as a loser, but as somebody who has made a complete idiot of himself. Either fight a war right, or don't fight it at all. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.