[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by SeaQueen

What was the tactic the aircraft was engaging in? If it was transiting in a straight line, or in an air corridor, then the firing solution you achieved with ESM would most likely remain accurate.

If the aircraft was using some other tactic, then the solution should not be accurate.

Circling around while monitoring buoys, doing MAD runs, perhaps on approach for a torpedo shot.... It's not accurate because the solution is still valid. It's accurate because the solution was updated because aTMA chooses a solution "within some parameters," in other words, it relies on the Truth. Once the solution varies enough from the truth that its outside of the allowable parameters (apparently) it updates, even though no new data has been provided.

I had long suspected that aTMA was using data other than the bearing lines and possibly DEMON data in creating a solution; this behavior--the updating of ESM contacts while submerged and the updating of sub contacts behind terrain--confirmed that suspicion.

I agree that you don't need a "perfect" solution to fire, but I really don't see what that has to do with the problems causing the SS-N-27 ASW to dominate the game. If anything, such a belief on the part of players commutes the problem...

Getting a perfect solution or an imperfect solution still takes time. The problem is that TMA will only get you a working solution after two legs (~8 minutes), with dead on solutions only after about 15 minutes assuming no course/speed changes by the target. Auto TMA is good enough to shoot in 2 minutes and dead on in 6-8.