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Old 09-20-10, 05:50 PM   #34
DarkFish
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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 View Post
No, not bull excrement.I agree with him because history backs him up.Capital did flee to UK under the Iron Lady and has since fled to the US as he said.Socialism has no real chance against Capitalism, history has shown it thus far.
Capital flees to the US?
AFAIK, the primary way for money to somehow flee to another country is by trade. If we look at the Cumulative Current Account Balance per Capita we see that the US is in red while most of western Europe is green (note especially the "Socialist States" of Norway and Sweden), meaning *your* money disappears to *our* countries. Not a bad achievement by our Socialist nations, compared to you Capitalists


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No, you may be happy but I was saying that many in Europe are not aware of the limited freedom they have due to the system there but as long as they are on the dole, they feel happy, thus the state of blissful ignorance.
Most people *are* in fact aware of what you call "limited freedom". You somehow assume we are all lost souls waiting for The True Messiah Of Capitalism who will turn us towards the right path. You assume that most are happy because they wouldn't understand our current system.
I'm very sorry to burst your bubble, but it doesn't work that way.

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The problem is the welfare state kills motivation.People get lazy and adopt defeatism as an attitude.Then they go and have children they are not equipped to support in any way and thus end up living off govt aka tax money.
You assume that if the state supports you, you won't work hard. To a limited degree that's true. If you're uneducated and you get no money at all, you *have* to work hard or you can't pay your bills. But shouldn't an uneducated, unwanted laborer have an equal right to have spare time and relaxation as a highly educated professional?
Of course there are always people who abuse the system, but the extreme majority of people don't.
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