having read your posts, i could not help but wonder why you don`t try yourself to make a mod submarine. really, it is not that difficult. i myself did not understand anything about SHIV-modding 5 month ago. i just started to play around with the silent3ditor and existing subs. first thing was to put a november sail on the le terrible hull and call this thing Project 669 and i thought " yeah , thats it!".wasn`t too hard.simply download a free 3d modelling program and try doing different shapes to get used to it. than, take a simple model from SH3 or 4 and redesign it the way you like. see the posts on this forum, if you have any questions. there are SO MANY posts concerning "how to mod" it may be well enough to write a book on it. I really liked to have modern post wwII subs to play.in fact, having seen the existing mods made me decide to buy SH4 in the first place. Now, I made over 20 fully working cold war subs myself because i was unsatisfied with what was there before. ALL MYSELF! wouldn`t have dreamt about it in the first place. so JUST TRY! i`ll help if i can, too!