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Originally Posted by JU_88
Ok Skybird.
Lets pretend Islam is as evil as you say it is.
So what the solution? deportation? segregation? Should we all become as radical as the radicals then and fight them to the death until only side one prevails?
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Interesting to see that you have nothing to say on the cartoonist'sneed to flee from Muslim anger, but that you immediately come to the defence of Islam, once again trying to render it has harmless. Who knows - maybe it even is the victim here, and the cartoonist deserves her fate well and justified...?!
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As you say Islam is an ideology, so other than out right genocide how do you contain an ideology?
What do you actually want to happen?
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Oh, I said that very often now (last time was replying to Steve three or four weeks ago in a very long and partially angry exchange), and if you still have not gotten it, then repeating it
once again will not make a difference (I am also tired of writing the same long essay time and again).
The real question is what people like you will do in the face of a threat like this. All we see from you and people like you is excuses why we shall not react, and why we should not do anything, and why we should continue to ignore it, and just sit and let things slide, meanwhile our policies and legislations get rewritten to meet Muslim demands more and more.
Your views, if one can call them so, - are part of the problem that is threatening us all. It wants us to just sit and do nothing, assuming that all is well. This attitude has served for example Germany not well 80 years ago. There, again too many people, starting with Brühning, just hoped to sit things out. One day they woke up and realised that they were living in a tyranny. It did not come over night, but years, but it was ignored. But the moment of truth is not a long period of time, but - a single moment. And when it comes to your mind, then it is already too late.
Conflict is part of life, because all things existing tend to crank against each other, and those having a stronger impulse tend to influence others, while those having a waker impulse tend to get influenced. That is elemental physics, but also elemental history. The clash of civilisdations is a clash of times, the greater primitivity (and lacking freedom, resulting in greater [enforced] unity) of the one sphere may serve it well because lacking complexity means greater robustness. Rome fell to an enemy that was stronger becasue it was less civilised. Violence and intolerance are powerful player in the game of history. They have caused more conquest and overthrowing in history, than pacifism and weakness ever did. And The Third reich was not beaten by shelling it with words and good intentions and invitations for "dialogue", but by becoming as brutal and violent as the Nazi armies acted themselves, kicking their backs and sending all Germany to hell, turning it into smoking rubble that way.
And we all benefit from that today. If Roosevelt and Churchill would have been pacifistic appeasers like Chamberlain, you and me today would not only be unfree but probably would also be unable by mind to have this debate, and maybe we would wear black uniforms with white skulls on the hats.