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Originally Posted by tater
In this case, the West needs to entirely stop enabling this nonsense. The recent (idiotic) US "compromise" on the UN resolution to make religious defamation a civil rights violation. Free speech trumps that, period.
No more mincing around, no concern about their sensibilities. Treat them like grown ups, and if they respond with violence to words (and it affects people in the West) come down on them like ton of bricks (or preferably in the style of Curtis LeMay).
End the self-censorship, too.
In the long term, I think the proper thing is to debauch them out of their extant existence  Bikini girls FTW!
In the long run, they are finished anyway, I think. The point of the most backwards parts of the religion is to hold back time, basically. At the time their religion was made up, people needed to have loads of kids (mortality being what it was). Ditto agrarian incentives for more kids. The modern, urban reality is that kids are dis-incentivized by simple economics. Holding women as childbearing/rearing prisoners is no longer needed, and those women with most of their lives free WILL demand freedom at some point. I think this is the real battle for Islam in the long run.
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Yeah but to be fair Tater - The question is, out of the billions of muslims around the world how many of them have you actually decribed accuratly in that statment?
Are you telling us the above mostly on goes on in an Islamic society?
I agree with you on free speech, but its a complicated beast and it depends on the situation, but if you say something which is blatantly offensive to someone, you cant really deny them their right to be angry either.
If some one on the street in calls you a name for no apparent reason, what are the chances you might end up threating to punch him in the face?