[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm not critical of movies at all, generally speaking. Unfortunately when it's a subject I know something about myself it's hard not to notice what is painfully obvious. I cut Das Boot a lot of slack because back in 1982 they didn't have CGI. I'm not critical, it's just something I notice, just as I do with Run Silent, Run Deep, because of the obvious juxtaposition between real footage and models.


The movie lost me the moment Harvey Keitel shouted "Dive" and rang the klaxon three times. The signal for a dive is two, surface is three. You might argue that it's a very minor thing, but it shows that they did exactly zero homework. After decades of similar movies getting it right, why would they suddenly get it wrong? Laziness, nothing more.

And it goes downhill from there. The story is a concocted perversion of history. The things they pull off are so blatantly over-the-top that it might have worked had it been billed as a comedy, except none of it was funny. As a movie and nothing more, sure it works. But so does The Conqueror. But it wasn't made as just a movie, it was claimed as a movie about history.


It's a movie that could only be loved by someone with no knowledge of the sea, the navy, or history.

Did the subs go 40 knots? did they sprout wings and propellers and start flying? no. what they did in the movie is possible entirely. You seem to be forgetting a critical element though. its a MOOOOOOVIIIEE. Of course hollywoods gonna put a little pizazz and awe into it. if it was anything like SH4 patrols, and im talking NORMAL patrols, (i.e the same old boring hours and hours of boredom, the occasional merchant ect.), it wouldnt be a very good movie. The uboat couldve done everything they said it to do, but its improbable, not impossible. For hollywood, the 1/10000000 chance something would happen is GOLD to them. I would love to see a movie where they literally strain EVERY part and aspect of their sub to the breaking point, and come out alive. overcoming the odds FTW. thats what U571 was about. a very VERY eventful and interesting and awesome movie. if they REALLY did zero homework, they wouldve made their sub sprout wings, and make their sub have the space and roominess of a battleship, and take on 8 escorts without flinching.

Are you HONESTLY going to let 1 extra Ring and a few minor things ruin and ENTIRE movie? Come on. If everything was down to the number, itd pretty much be a documentary. documentaries are entirely different from movies. Plus, these movies werent made for extremist sub worshippers such as yourself. its a mvoie most of the general public can sink their teeths into. Although some would most likely through the whole movie, CONSTANTLY ask "Whats the ballast tanks" or "whats flank speed" or "why cant they fire the torpdoes?". ugghhhhh. that would be excrutiating. Das boot, U571 and Other great classics were wonderful. They were pretty much on the money, by missing minor aspects but SO WHAT. its a movie, and you MUST MUST MUUUUST understand that.