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In germany a very popular and one of our most intelligent SPD-politician has just been crucified for publishing a book about the lacking integration of Muslim immigrants, their desastrous impact on the finances of the social wellfare system, and their unsufficient contribution to the German netto-income. In touring and defence for that book ("Deutschland schafft sich ab", Thilo Sarrazin), basing on official statistiscs of federal agencies to which he had access because until end of this September he was and is member of the board of directors of the German Federal Bank and before that was senator for finances in Berlin, he said on one event that vcertain tribes of people share certain similiar gene. He mentioned two examples, one wrong one that escaped his mouth in the heat of battle ("All Jews share a similiar gene", he made no offending comment against them, but the words nevertheless are wrong sionce Judaism is not ethnicity), and for which he excused a day later and said that it is not true that it indeed was the heat of action, the other example was I think some African people sharing some genes as well (wich is true if you look at for example skin colour or facial physiognomy), again he did not make any racist or valuing comment, he mentioned it in a diferent context and in defence of a thesis that intelligence is heritable to some degree. Sarrazoin also pointed out that due to the massive migration of social low class people lacking education and living in a climate of not suporting education and not integrating in germany, but producing much, much more babies than the better educated social middle and upper class and academic families, the mean intelligence of german society is declining. If you look at german school and employers in economy and industry not being able to find sufficiently educated young workers for their jobs because a big share of 16- and 18 year old are not able to read and write correctly and fluently and cannot calöculate even most elemental maths, with university professors complaining that their new students do not even bring in even the olst elemental basics of school education and that they must hold crash-courses in these before they start their regular courses, then you see that Sarrazin again has it right. Problem is that already just one kid in a class not understanding German sufficiently, already leads to a 25% decline of the alotted stint for the semester - for all kids. and in the big cities of Germany, there are more and more schools where German kids are the minority and Musliom kids are dominating. and where they do, you also see a lot of violence, discrimination against germans, etc etc etc. Problem also is that the politicians reacted by lowering the standards for schoolnotes, and designed a legisaltion that leaves teachers no room anymore to stray from the offiocial scheme of how to note how many errors in a classroom exam. Today you get the same note for less performance, or a better note for the same performance. And unacceptable ammounts of errors still earn you good notes. that way, the problem gets glossed over, and in education studies you hear about germany the results seem to say that Germany has climbed in the international ranking. Believe me, the oppoosite is true - I know or get told by several school teachers in three different federal states.
Back to Sarrazin - as was to be expected, he got burned, quartered, hanged, stabbed, poisened and crucified even before the book was published. It is the loudest uproar of the political class of the past years. He has been mobbed out of the federal bank, the president and the chancellor attacked him even before the book was read by them, his party, the socialists, want to throw him out.
In feedback of newspapers, 80-90% of German citizens support Sarrazin and want him to found his own party, together with the conservatives that completely have been mobbed and frustrated out of the CDU, which today is just another clone of the SPD, being destroyed by Merkel (former chief secretary of propaganda in the GDR's youth organisation FDJ (no post that you do not volunteer for, so she learned her basics from the professionals).
On intelligence, it is relatively undisputed that genes play an important factor. That does not mean the final IQ is heritable, but what genes decide on is a wikndow of possibility inside which intelligence can form up, or stagnate, in life, and inside that window of possibility envrionmental and cultural factor decide whether or not intelligence developes more, or less. We also know that lacking mental acivity, especially at higher age but also in younger adult years, can lead to degeneration of intellegence.
This was already consensus in sciences when I studied psychology in the early nineties.
Sarazzin gets suppoort by many prminent and knowing integration and islam experts in Germany who have a migration background themselves and who atrtack islamic subculture over the same reqasons like Sarrazin does, most known are Abdel Samad (Muslim Egyptian background), and Necla Kelec (Muslim turkish background). The latter recently got explained by a stupid Green party leader that her muslimhood is just a false Muslimhood and that Islam in reality is somethign very different, means: what the leftist eggheads want it to be. I laughed out loud. when listening to that hatefilled tirade. Necla kelec takes pride in defending Germqany'S freedom and soveriegnity, for which the left hates her very much, and she is entzhusiastic agbout the values and rich tradition of the german cultural heritage that she sees as so precious and poverwhelkming that she loved to integrate here and fight for German clture bin g the culture oifGermany - for which she is hated in Turkey and by Turkish col9nists in germany - and by almost all the poltiical class in germany, too. As a German in Germany, you are not allowed to defend german cultural identity. If you do, you are a racist and a suspected Nazi. Kelec also has a solid academic preodiler as an intimate expoert for islam. But an arrogant anti-intellectual Green harridan who confesses to wanting to destroy German national identity and national states, knows it all so much better about islam than a turkish Muslima who gained academic training on Islam and became critical of it since she knows by experience and by acadmeic knowledge what it does both in turkey and in germany!?
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