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Originally Posted by Oberon
The Erdnagel could possibly take its place up there...but it's hard to tell whether it was more the public perception over the aircraft as opposed to the actual design. 
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Erdnagle? Is that the Starfighter Obie?
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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat
that is surprising. One of the reasons pilots like guns on their planes, now that missiles are more reliable, is to be able to protect a downed pilot on the ground from enemy forces while waiting for rescue. Can't do that with AAM missiles.
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Won't have to worry about pilots very long...
They can still carry a gun in an external pod but I heard they are thinking about sticking a laser in the space normally reserved for the lift fan- unneeded on the USAF and USN JSFs. Speaking of lasers if they put more funds in to the ABM laser on the 747 I could see that dooming the manned fighter quite quick- think AWACS with a thousand mile ranged death ray...