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Old 09-05-10, 11:58 AM   #9
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Though I can swear that I do know God exists I do not know for sure whether God created everything
Then, despite your "EXACTLY", you missed my point entirely.

HOW do you know God exists? There is no evidence one way or the other. Things may just be what they are, and not have had any help at all. What you "know" is only what you believe. As I said, believing it doesn't make it so.

It's very hard to answer single points in a run-on sentence, so I divided the following up as best I could.
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but since I've found to today that nothing is even remotely close to God it would be a safe bet that He did create everything which would explain the legitimacy of God being in authority and the source of all genuine authority as what I've come to understand and know,
Why exactly is that a safe bet. It's only true if there really is a God, and so far the only evidence you've shown is the fact that you believe it. That is all you really "know". If it can't be shown with facts and evidence, then it is nothing more than belief, and belief is not proof.

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The one who created everything out of nothing must be logically speaking waaay beyond our understanding even that which is our current best.
That is certainly true, if the initial assumption is true. But again, there is no direct evidence for the existence of God, so your argument is all built on faith, not fact.

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There's nothing wrong with using the Ferrari analogy to the whole creation..the truth is what you just wrote actually backed the analogy further so if it took intelligent men to design and produce a something out of something else then it must have taken as well some unimaginably intelligent entity to design and CREATE EVERYTHING out of NOTHING. Because if it took intelligent people just to design and produce something out of something else we know for certain that nothing could not have possibly created anything much less everything.
Again you miss the important fact that we don't know if everthing was created out of nothing or not. All we "know" is what we see. Everything else is guesswork. The universe may have been created by God, or it may just "be". We don't know.

Don't take this to mean I deny God's existence. That would require me to believe that there is no God, and I don't. The only thing I know for certain on the subject is that I don't know. And the only thing I believe is that no one else knows either.

And if someone does actually know, I wish they'd show me the proof.
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