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Originally Posted by antikristuseke
The day I submit to religious nonsense is the day I shall commit suicide. But Islam needs to be treated equally to every other religion in the public sphere, no special treatment, just equality.
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No equality for Nazis and Islam and scientoloigy and psycho-sects, Stalinists, etc. Sorry.
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And again you fall back on the fallacy of speaking of islam as if it was a single entity, it is not, there are various forms of islam and various interpretations of it,
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He who runs into a wall, rubs his head and denies there is a wall, cannot be helped.
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the only way to ensure good will etc. is to trade with them as Lance has repeatedly stated, this is an area where I absolutely agree with him.
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Good will towards totalitarianism - is not clever, no matter the cloathes it dresses itself in.
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As to what will be left of islam by that point, why the same hollow shell that modern christianity is, some of their rites will differ, but that is about it.
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And another poor soul thinking that Islam compares to Chrstian history. Sigh.
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The bottom line is, everyone has the right to belive what ever bull**** they want, in that respect islam is no different than christianity.
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If they do it inside their four walls, do not absue their chikldren to infest them while they still cannot resist, and do not hold slaves, fine. where they become part of a movement that chnages the world and the soiciety of the country and culture I live in, my tolerance comes to an abrupt end, immediately.
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Edit: Freedom isnt really worth much if it is only available to some but closed to others, if free men have to die to keep it that way then that is the price we must pay.
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And another obscure thimnker in the tradiiton of steve with whom I just went through all this (so I will not do it all again). Read my sig, and if you have a solution to it, let us know. Until then I rate you as a
Mitläufer of those who want to destroy freedom, because if not by desire than by effect that is what you assist in.