[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Aramike

Umm, right. Nice attempt at dodging the point.

Or rather a nice attempt by you to twist the point of this topic.

I thought the point was one of being safe, but I guess one must continue to disregard the opposition's points if one has no real argument against them.

Jeez, of course there are some places in which you're safer than others! I'm sure you're much safer in a rich neighbourhood in the USA than in a ghetto in Denmark. The point is than on *average* you're safer in Denmark than in the US.

Sensitve are we?

Not at all.

The point I made earlier was the I personally rather live in a safe area of a country with a higher crime rate than a dangerous area in a country with a lower crime rate.

But you know how all of us Americans are just getting assaulted and murdered, right?

Of course not all Americans get assaulted and murdered. But the odds of getting murdered etc. are much higher in the US than in Denmark.

Yeah, and of course you rather live in a safe area of an unsafe country than the other way around. The whole point is that *on average* your much better of in Denmark. Since statistics are always about averages, I can't see how you can suddenly involve particular neighbourhoods in it.
The easiest way of making statistics "flawed" is by just narrowing the group on which you apply the statistics. E.g. the average height of a Dutch man is 1.85m but if you narrow it to my family I can assure you that's a bit on the short side. This is exactly what you try to do by involving neighbourhoods.

The claim was not flawed - it was incomplete until you put it into the context of the paragraph.

You claimed (or at the very least insinuated) that somehow the evidence I provided would not be valid because it might have been gathered in a different manner.
I have provided statistics. Now the burden is on you to prove your claim they are somehow not valid. Since you haven't done so, I assume you can't prove it and therefore your claim is invalid.

Now you're putting unrelated sentences together.

My fault. In the reply window they were put together so I just assumed it belonged that way.

Unknown, but it isn't inconcievable that a nation's crime rate could exceed another nation's.

It is possible. It's not likely however as the US got a rather large "headstart", and therefore the Danish crimerates have got a long time to stabilize themselves.

Who'd know though? As you said, knowing the contributing factors to crime in a nation with a higher rate isn't important.

I didn't say it's always unimportant for everyone. I said it's unimportant in this particular discussion.

Physics? Wrong discussion.

And maths are not?
Social processes like crime rates much more resemble physical processes than mathematical functions. Exponential growth? For a few years maybe, but at some moment the growth will decrease.