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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
You're right; anyone who holds a different opinion is wrong; my thinking has no merit at all - it is "dead-end".
How is that not a lecture?
You sound to me just like a guy I talk with every now-and-then. He's a devout Communist, but the idealogy is unimportant. What is important is that every time I see him the first thing he says is "Have we reached a consensus yet?" I have to remind him that I'm not blind to the fact that he's not really interested a consensus. What he's really asking is "Have you come around to my way of thinking yet?"
You're the same. There is no question but that you are right, and anybody who disagrees is wrong, and needs to be taught the truth. So yes, you do lecture.
And another interminable tribute to the greatest man who ever lived.
And of course all this came about because I support the legal right of someone to erect a building.
Lecturing again. I don't think you mean to make us total slaves. What I do think is that your mindset will lead to exactly that, and you don't see it. That is what makes you dangerous to my mindset.
Your idea of what I said, not what I actually ever said. I allow that they must be allowed to speak, and to build. I allow that the law must not be changed specifically for them, but that they must be watched closely, as should all who would take away freedom. What you don't see is that to my mind that applies to you as well.
You have consistently railed against my thinking and lectured me on how wrong I am. What you have not done once is defend yourself against my accusation that you are as bad as them. I don't see you as any different. Show me that I'm wrong on that.
And you apparently fail to see that every dictator, every tyrant who has betrayed, destroyed and crushed people has at some point said exactly the same thing: "It's only a little freedom." "It's only for someone else, not you." "I'm doing it for your own good."
Do you start to see it now? Can you show me that I'm wrong on this one? Can you show me that you are not a danger to everything I believe in?
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Sigh.
As long as you cannot show wrong the reason and sane argument in the statement in my sig, it is impossible for me to take you serious, and I have nothing more to say to you on this. Either you get it, or you do not get it.
I short-quoted the title of the book by Popper in the past. The title is not "The Open Society". The title is "The Open Society
And Its Enemies." You may want to meditate a bit on why that is so.
But honestly said - one does not need to read a book to understand that tolerating the intolerant necessarily leads to the destruction of the tolerant. even little kids at elementary school already form an understanding of this.