[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

So you're claiming that an interest in improving ones situation is not representative of the social structure of American society? If so you don't know us very well.

That is not what I said. Wh you think I did, escapes my understanding.

The tuition of well over half my students is paid via several worker retraining programs, so they pay little or nothing. The rest are there on student loans which are granted based on a persons future earnings potential rather than their present wealth. Call it illusionary if you want but if so it's an illusion that is personified in thousands of vocational schools like mine spread across the country.

Ah, worker retraining programs we have en masse in Germany, to, arranged by the socalled Job-Centres, the former state-run employment offices. Our statistics show us that many graduates get channeled thorugh such prgams in order to count them out oif the official unemployment statistics, while the majority of them do not get jobs after such training programs even if they get send to two or even three such programs in line. that is not because the programs leave them too incompent, but because jobs do not get created by these courses and thus they still have the problem of not finding work.

I want to call it nothing (your illusory-remark), I do not know why you so often must think that I have meant or said things that I did not say and have not meant. It does not make it easier to communicate with you.

That's because you get your information from rags like Speigel and the NYT who make their livings on spreading gloom and doom, or you read the crap the political parties are always slinging at each other and think that it is gospel.

Aha. I stand corrected.

Like I've said twice so far. Folks have been prognosticating our imminent doom for over 200 years. They ain't been right yet.

Somehow I think you always take it personal and emotional immediately when somebody - not necessarily me only - asking something that puts the wanted picture into question. The statisticsI linked in my last time - ignored. the arguments they hold - cleaned of the table. An essay from an outside observer that hints and points at things - just wishing bad to the US.

Well, at least this behavior pattern also could be taken as an answer to my orignal question at the very beginning - although it is none based on argument and counter-argument.

Have you ever taken into account the possibility that the dog you think wants to bite you and that you chase away by throwing stones, in fact does not mean to bite and maybe is just approaching you for - curiosity?

Well, i leave it to this.