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Old 08-21-10, 07:51 PM   #11
TLAM Strike
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Originally Posted by kranz View Post
yup, that's exactly how it goes. in poland it is more politically correct just to say "seven millions" JEWS. no one gives a damn about their passports. polish jews, hungarian, dutch, french, english, german etc-nope, they were simply jews.
I remember a discussion I had with a couple of friends in school once about this. This Girl and Me had to explain to a friend how even though she was not a member of the Jewish faith as her parents were members of the 'Jewish Race' IE ethnic Jewish and she would be considered a Jew by the Nazis. We explained how that being Jewish is both an act of religious affiliation and or the state of being descended from a particular ethnic group by blood.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve View Post
But the non-jews in the camps are usually counted separately, and the six million number is commonly accepted as being for jews only. Including Soviet POWs, Romani (Gypsies), and other groups raised the total to anywhere from eleven million to twenty-one million.

Including Stalin's purges in Russia and Russian citizens killed by the Germans, and of course military losses, the total number of deaths in WW2 rises to an estimated fifty-five million people.

Pretty staggering when you think about it.
Also around half the total people killed were Soviet, over 26 million.
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