One way of salvaging Greyrider's method is the following:
The 80/10 method implies an intercept angle of 90°.
Many players, including myself, try to "bring" the target at a 90°/270° bearing while the sub at 0 speed. In this situation you have the target's course (perpendicular to your heaging) but no clue about its speed.
After attaining the above situation go to reverse (without changing heading). After a while you can go forward (again without changing heading) and use Greyrider's method to obtain target's speed.
So 8010
with a twist (
) is a usable method.
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