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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down
I have been rereading your tutorial. I did you notice that you instruct to start the PK, but never instruct to turn it off. (I can live with that instruction.) Further along in the tutorial, you instruct to reenter range and speed. You instruct to turn the PK on a second time. Why would I do that? THE PK IS ON AND HAS NOT BEEN TURN OFF. I think it is a duplicative instruction. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down
And I want Mr. Channing to explain if he merely made a mistake in his tutorial re turning the PK on a second time?
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Originally Posted by John Channing
Are you actually under the impression that I owe you something? I mean aside from the 12+ hours of my scarce personal time I spent putting that tutorial together?
JCC
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Originally Posted by Urge
Nisgeis wrote...
John's tutorial does say to enter range and bearing, AOB, speed, range and bearing again and AOB again and then turn on the PK.
Urge
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Originally Posted by Nisgeis
It doesn't say turn on the PK twice, which is what IGD is talking about. JCC's method works also, but is more time sensitive, so you can't hang about and have to start the PK super quick if there are no more observations (especially if you are moving fast yourself), but as JCC's tutorials also says there is a final observation where you would update the range and bearing and course if the TDC didn't match up.
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Originally Posted by Urge
True, I was just pointing it out because I didn't want anyone to go thru the frustration that I did. And I'm certainly not trying to demean JCC for his tutorial and the hours of hard work he put into it. John, THANK YOU!!!
Urge
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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down
I sense some serious hostility on both of your parts. Let me set you straight.
As for my question directed to Channing, no, you do not owe me a damn thing. However, I was misled in screen shot (no. 39, if I counted correctly five hours ago) where you stated, ("The contact's speed now shows as 10 knots in the TDC. (period added.) Now to enter the Range and then start the Position Keeper. (italic, bold and period added.)" Until I read Nisgeis reply to my question, I took the second sentence to mean that this was the point in time to activate the PK. Looking at it in retrospect upon considering Nisgeis reply, I realize that the sentence's meaning is different than I ascribed to it. What you intended to say, and said somewhat indirectly, is closer to this, "The following screenshots will lead to activation of the PK wherein you will finalize the firing solution." I took Channing's quoted instruction literally, and became confused when I subsequently read a second screenshot instruction directing that the PK be activated.
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Okay, this is for Urge primarily, as I have addressed Channing in a lengthy post above.
My point to Channing was simple. The chain of quotes above explains how I misinterpreted his tutorial. You apparently did as well.

Channing take note, for whatever it is worth. The tutorial is good overall, but if you ever decide to revise portions, our questions/comments are good areas to focus on for purposes of clarifying it.
Urge, I believe that Channing was taking his shot at my second quoted post above. He was not taking a shot at you. I can stand on my own two feet. There was no need for you explain yourself or imply an apology. Your position re the PK activation was legitimate. If we are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, at least we are in the same drawer with to some serious steel.
My second quoted post above was terse. Probably overly so. That was unintentional. Channing is likely frustrated because he spent a lot of time on the tutorial, and is likely offended by its tone. Don't let is get to you, John. I am on your side here. I was frustrated due to the fact that I couldn't figure out what you were instructing. I am akin to a church member listening to the gospel.
Anyway, two things now are clear, at least as to Urge and me, and they are that you only turn the PK on once, and that the important reference to it is on the screenshot nearest the end of the tutorial. (The screen shots are not numbered or I would be more specific.)
Goodnight! I am going to bed.

My computer has been down most of the day, I lost a month's worth of emails when I restored my back up fliles, and, worst of all, I got in no practice missions for the 3D TDC mod as a consequence.