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tater · 08-05-10, 02:35 PM

That Japan wanted to end the war is utter nonsense.

That old claim is based on one intercepted message from a diplomat back to Tokyo where he said they should accept. The reply—which was in a code that did not have intercepts declassified until 1996—was an unambiguous "NO." It added that the plan was to bleed the US white on the beaches, THEN sue for peace with the US body count as a negotiating point.

The a-bombs without question saved lives.

Again, all POWs and detainees (civilians) would have been executed in September. Not to mention the fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have simply been firebombed had they not been nuked. The 2d Tokyo fire bomb raid killed more than EITHER a-bomb.

One of the best books dealing with the way the war ended (nitty gritty details from inside the Imperial Palace and IGHQ) is Richard Frank's excellent book, Downfall.

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tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	That Japan wanted to end the war is utter nonsense. That old claim is based on one intercepted message from a diplomat back to Tokyo where he said they should accept. The reply—which was in a code that did not have intercepts declassified until 1996—was an unambiguous "NO." It added that the plan was to bleed the US white on the beaches, THEN sue for peace with the US body count as a negotiating point. The a-bombs without question saved lives. Again, all POWs and detainees (civilians) would have been executed in September. Not to mention the fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have simply been firebombed had they not been nuked. The 2d Tokyo fire bomb raid killed more than EITHER a-bomb. One of the best books dealing with the way the war ended (nitty gritty details from inside the Imperial Palace and IGHQ) is Richard Frank's excellent book, Downfall.