[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by applesthecat

You are trying to say that the film doesn't show what it shows, and what the description says it shows. Yet in several instances we can see men being shot in the water. You say splashes that "resemble" bullets. C'mon. What else can they be? That has to be denial. What about the scene where a japanese sailor got shot at point blank at the side of the sub?

And you seem incapable of addressing a direct question. I mentioned that scene, specifically because it is the only one that is uncut. You say "several instances". Please stop making the same accusation over and over, and comment on the specific cuts I mentioned. You say I'm in denial, but I've never denied anything.

The film documents what the film documents. That is what I'm saying. You're saying it may be documenting a leisurely day at sea, the men may be shooting at fish, the bullet splashes may be something else, the men in the water may be going for swim, the sailors shooting hand guns into the water may be just practicing, and the guy who gets shots in the head may have been, I don't know - a mannequin, and on and on. You're saying there is no proof that any massacre took place in this footage. That is denial.

Again, specifics please. Show exactly where I've said any of the things you just claimed I'm saying.

I don't now why you insist on suggesting the film is possibly not what it is considering that preventing Japanese sailors from approaching by shooting at them was in fact policy.

And again, where have I said that it wasn't policy. You now claim I'm saying it didn't happen. I was in Viet Nam. Remember My Lai? Nothing to do with me, but I know very well what people are capable of, especially in wartime. I know what I'm capable of, and it ain't pretty.

The only thing I've claimed is that that particular video suffers from heavy editing, and we don't know exactly what was edited or why. That makes it suspect as evidence, much less absolute proof. I'm not in denial about anything, but you seem not to be able to address the facts.

Sailor Steve is trying to say that what the video shows may not be that at all. But this is exactly what we are seeing.

So you can't see the cuts and splices? All you need to do is look at the list I made, but you don't seem to be able to do that. All you are doing is saying the same things over and over again, hoping they'll come true.

Again, please look at what I've pointed out AND USE SPECIFICS.