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Originally Posted by Nisgeis
Well, I took your advice and looked up on that there internet what 'holding out' meant and much to my surprise, it actually meant exactly what I thought it did. It doesn't mean 'waiting for' it means to continue to resist something.
If someone is not buying the game because the DRM would not allow them to play it, so they couldn't run it, then that's a perfectly sensible thing to do. If someone is able to run the game, but has not bought it, then that person has made that choice to not buy a game they could play and they can be said to be holding out. Usually the update on the 'holdout' is usually along the lines of:
I'm holding out quite nicely thankyou. SH5 is the buggiest game ever and the war only goes upto 1943. Seriously who set it so you can't dive your boat if you are on the bridge... etcetera.
So, you can see that simple update just turns into a bash of SH5.
If people want to post 'I'm still holding out because I have iron will and have taken an oath to never buy a product with DRM' then fine. Very few posts are along those lines though.
When it was suggested people actually tell Ubisoft that they didn't like the DRM, there was active resistance against that.
If they don't care, they won't be posting here.
No, that's really not the way I put it. To correct your football analogy with my reasoning it would be:
Football Fan A does not buy a ticket, because he is prevented from travelling to the game or entering the ground by the football club. Fan A does not buy a ticket, because he would be unable to enjoy the game.
Football Fan B does not buy a ticket, because some other people are prevented from travelling to the game or entering the football ground. Although Fan B could enjoy the game himself, he instead spends time posting on a bicycle repair forum about how they are finding holding out easy because the manager of the club doesn't know what he's doing and the players are all a bunch of overpaid ponces who would only run after a football if it had a Hello! magazine contract attached to it. The club's going downhill and it won't be long until the club is relegated and that means bye bye fat TV contract and hello bankrupcy and in the mean time he's going back to watching cricket, where they play properly.
More so until you get a better gaming machine though right?
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You've missed the point entirely.
Taking your football fans: Fan A cannot attend the game because he can't get there so wouldn't waste the money on a ticket. But if he won an all expenses paid trip to see his favorite team play, with transport laid on so he doesn't have to travel, he'd willingly go, because he is a football fan.
Fan B is in a similar situation. He won't buy a ticket because other people are prevented from attending the game, and he doesn't want to go on his own, so he boycotts the game. But if he won an all expense paid trip, with laid on transport, and the opportunity to bring his mates who can't ordinarily attend, he'd take it, because he is a football fan.
Both of these examples are football fans. But again you've not considered person C: someone who isn't a football fan. Sure they may glance at the back page of the newspaper from time to time, but they don't have any real interest in the sport, and wouldn't attend a match even if they did get the aforementioned all expenses paid trip to a match. This person isn;t holding out by not attending the match, he just isn't that bothered because football isn't for him. He may watch something similar like Rugby, but not football.
So lets put these into Sh5 terms:
Fan A: would be people who want the game, but their PC can't run it. (either for hardware of DRM reasons) and are waiting til they get a PC capable of running it.
Fan B: would be people who want the game but refuse to buy it because of the DRM, and are waiting for it to be removed.
Person C: Would be people that just aren't interested. That would be me. I have no intentions of buying SH5, not because of the DRM, or the fact that my PC is nearly 10 years old and struggles to run SH4. Nope, none of that. I've not interest in buying SH5 because I've seen it in action at my friends house, I've read multiple reviews of it, and I've heard all the reports of bugs and other problems. I admit when the game was first announced I was interested, but once I found out more about it, I decided that it wasn't for me. I may have a passing interest in how the game is progressing (like the guy who occasionally glances at the football scores in the back of the newspaper), and to this end, when I visit the SH3 and SH4 forums, I drop by the SH5 forum out of curiosity, but that's as far as my interest goes.
I'm not holding out. I just quite frankly don't care, and wouldn't have even bothered posting again if you hadn't misunderstood my meaning.