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Old 07-23-10, 08:03 PM   #64
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Wait a second half the Strait dosn't belong to Iran it belongs to Oman! Iran has no jurisdiction in those waters! Oman is a US Ally, and the shipping channel in the strait goes though Omani waters.
The inbound shipping lane passes through Iranian territorial waters.

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Ah yes Iran did fail to warn the world that they were mining waters south of the Iran-Iraq conflict
Is America at warwith Iran ? that was the claim that was made.
If you want to go off on tangents about how terrible Iran is then you should consider that America also happens to be a terrorist sponsoring and sheltering government so it puts the nations on the same field.
Consider it an extension of the Negroponte doctrine


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Is anything they US TF did that was against the laws of war?
What war???????

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Oh so they were operating under the mandate of the UN of which Iran is a member and obligated to recognize its mandates and the authority of agents operating on its behalf.
Yes, and the mandate has Iraq as the soveriegn power so its up to them to reach a territorial agreement with Iran, not for the coilition to simply make up a line by themselves.
So since they lacked the authority and wasn't operatinfg within the mandate the coilition screwed up.
It doesn't matter how crazy the Iranians are or how they break laws, the fact remains that the coilition screwed up badly and lied to try and justify their actions.

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Lets see there is a line that divides all territorial waters.
Yes, a line that has to be agreed upon by the people either side of the line, there isn't one in this case is there as they havn't agreed on its location.

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Because someone needed to clarify where the line continues the US did it... while as you pointed out operating under the mandate of the United Nations.
Thats where your problem starts as the new Iraqis got full soveriegnty and responsibilty from June 30 2004 so america couldn't draw lines as they don't count as that is a soveriegn issue which has to be done by Iran and Iraq. America could have drawn a line before that as the de facto occupying power but it would have to be done in agreement with the people the other side of the line....there was no such agreement was there which makes the coilitions invented line totally null and void.

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Ah yes the Falklands "Dispute". A Dispute where one country tries to oversize sovereignty over another countries citizens. Then engages in an undeclared war against them.
"Citizens" that was also a matter of dispute wasn't it.
Luckily for the falklanders the invasion resulted in Britain changing its laws on citizenship again.
The Islands status still remains disputed doesn't it.
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