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Old 07-22-10, 10:39 AM   #60
Tribesman
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Not sure we are required to reciprocate. Still, in the absence of peace treaty, a state of war still exists between us by virtue of the attack on us.
Does it ? Where?
If it existed the US vessels in that video cannot have hasd a right to inniocent passage through Iranian territorial waters which they use every time they enter or leave the Gulf(though the radio operator did get confused and claimed contradictory rights)

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Who says they made it up?
The British government and the British military.
You said you had the report??????
It was a notional line made up by people who had no legal standing to make the descision which is why it is notional. It was presented to Paliament as beyond dispute and unquestionable when they knew full well it was very disputed and so questionable it was a joke.

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Iran has published no claim over the waters. Nether had Iraq.
The absence of a published claim or validated agreement by the relevant people means it is an unresolved issue and as such is disputed.

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Not disputed just not known.
Errrrrr.....if a boundary is not known and agreed then it is disputed

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The boundary is agreed on. Coalition forces operated according to the current known boundary.
Make your mind up, you just said again that it is not known.
Besides which the coilition had no authority to make up a pretend boundary of its own as the boundary is an issue between the two states.

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Neither does the Iranian boundary.
That is a matter between Iraq and Iran.

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The line is established. It down the center of the Shatt's shipping channel.
Once again, make your mind up

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You are splitting up the term, Notational Boundary is a boundary assumed to exist.
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Since this is a matter of legal jurisdiction and soveriegnty then imaginary lines with no legal standing made up by states who have no right to do so cannot assume anything as they havn't the faintest notion of being valid.

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No borders don't matter. Pirates and Tortures are considerd "Hostis humani generis" that is enemies of all mankind. Jurisdiction does not matter all nations have an obligation to stop such activity regardless of jurisdiction.
But it wasn't an issue of piracy was it.

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So in a routine check for contraband a threat of piracy was discovered changing the legal standing of an operation already in Iraqi waters.
Once again your whole arguement comes from the false assumption which even those involved no longer claim is true.

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Is there a reason you support nations engaged in state sponsored piracy Tribesman?
If someone writes supporting piracy and claiming it was all nice and legal they will get the same treatment as you are getting.


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Tribesman supports anyone or any organization he sees as being against the US as far as I can tell. That's the litmus test. The worse it is for the US, the better for him.

Pick a topic, and check it out... defending against violent criminals illegally entering the US? Pro-criminal.

Once again you fail badly, if you look at the topic you refer to my arguement all along has been that the legislation in question is bad for the US and very bad for Arizona.
The reason the US gets more crticism is simply because of the amount of people who will try to justify things from a national view when they cannot really be justified.
If there was more Iranians posting here with the "my country right or wrong" attitude then Iran would get more of a slating on those issues raised.

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Is Britain part of NATO?
Did NATO go to war against Argentina? The US supplied missiles, tankers, logistical and SIGINT support.
....did Nato go to war with Argentina?
That was the question after all and it was directly in response to your claim.
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