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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980
We will never really know until everything is declassified, hopefully one day we and more importantly, the families of those loss will.
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You have a lot of energy focused on this sinking of a US Navy nuclear fast attack submarine.
You have the seed thought of an evil plot against the USN SSN
You have tickeled us with what you think ... this is good in a way.
I hope you listen to the good friendly advice that has been given in opposition to your theory.
On a subject of this nature I would not lie or fudge a story for you
I was there the day she (Scorpion) came in, for reasons I do not know, to the sub base in Rota, Spain. I had just finished my first boomer patrol on the USS Ethan Allen SSBN 608 blue crew in May 1968.
We usually stayed on the tender when we change commands on boomers with two crews. Turning the boat over in about three days or so.
Anyway I was leaning on the rail of the submairne tender when she came in for a quick stop on the starboard side of the tender with the stern tied to the pier. Boomers on the port side of the tender to seperate us ... we could'e talked to them like normal sailors if they had been rafted up or something, but they had a different job than our milk runs.
Get the picture ... we saw her come in of course boats don't display names and numbers it was weeks later after we had already flown home for our three months off. When your off you have no access to secret materials.
No google in 68 lol the only way you get anything is by scuttlebutt. First talk was that they had flunked some king of reactor testing the nuc's were in trouble is all I know.
But I was one of the last men to see her, sad especially when it's your job.
As for your theory ... I could play into it real easy knowing where the Russians were hiding and waiting for us as soon as we would leave Rota.
Sometimes we would go out (no more Rota, right) and cruise for days to make sure no one was following us and then find a nice big fat tanker to slip underneath and hide in all of the noise she was making just feet from the top of our heads. I was in sonar, but everyone onboard could hear the slow blades of a tanker right above.
They were there waiting for us on the other side ... Britsh ASW planes would scan the area for us and report anything they saw. which usually consisted of russian foxtrots and whiskey class boats that had to snorkle.
Yep, they were there, but did they sink the Scorpion?
I don't think so ... any proof of this even if it was ultra top secret would have been cocktail talk for the men with gold dolphins and I gurantee you the men I knew and served with would have found a way to get even with or without the top brass permission.
On the good side of accidents of this nature came fail-safe a procedure that has saved many lives. I am out of breath in this heat and need to rest now.
You take care now and if you want to get mad about the Soviet Union doing something ... wonder about all of those missing pilots during the Vietnam war that may have been transported to mother land Russia to gleam any knowledge they had and then were elimanted by some say throats being cut.
I'll back you on that one
