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Ducimus · 07-13-10, 08:55 PM

The thing is, most people here (IE submarine fans), really don't care. Some reasons are slightly understandable, others not so much.

1.) For some (many?) here, if it does not involve their country, it is not worth the time to find out about it. There are some notable exceptional indivduals to this statement (whom I admire for not being like many others), but from what ive seen, of many, if it didn't involve their country, they are not interested. The PTO is seen as mainly a Japanese, and American thing, and a number of people here are from Europe. To some degree, i can understand this. If i was from Europe, id be focused (more) on the ETO too.

2.) PTO involves more reading then ETO, which has several movies attached to it. From saving Private ryan, to band of brothers, and Das Boot. These movies inspire people to find out more. The PTO has what? Windtalkers? Old black and white Clark Gable movies just don't peak the same level of interest.

3.) Blatant fanboism and willful ignorance. Point blank, this is like football fans. Your team sucks, mine is the best. I think its inspired by romance and myth surrounding Uboats. But more specifically in this case, "your guys couldn't have had it near as bad as my guys, therego your theater is crap!". I won't name names, but one user from Texas told me in a PM a few years ago, that US submarines in the pacific was "as signficant as the Lithuanian navy." and then summarized the US sub campaign in the pacific as: "Blah, blah, torpedo troubles, blah blah blah". I never forgot that.

I never forgot it, because I'd expect that from someone from Europe, but not from own of my own countrymen! It's one thing to, being aninformed person, having a theater preference. But its quite another to make that preference as an uninformed person. That's just ignorant, and willfully so if you don't devote enough time to study both theaters somewhat equally. But this isn't isolated to this individual, Its actualy fairly commonplace here on subsim.

I could probably rattle on, but i think those are the 3 big reasons why the PTO is shat on around here.

07-13-10, 08:55 PM	#7
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	The thing is, most people here (IE submarine fans), really don't care. Some reasons are slightly understandable, others not so much. 1.) For some (many?) here, if it does not involve their country, it is not worth the time to find out about it. There are some notable exceptional indivduals to this statement (whom I admire for not being like many others), but from what ive seen, of many, if it didn't involve their country, they are not interested. The PTO is seen as mainly a Japanese, and American thing, and a number of people here are from Europe. To some degree, i can understand this. If i was from Europe, id be focused (more) on the ETO too. 2.) PTO involves more reading then ETO, which has several movies attached to it. From saving Private ryan, to band of brothers, and Das Boot. These movies inspire people to find out more. The PTO has what? Windtalkers? Old black and white Clark Gable movies just don't peak the same level of interest. 3.) Blatant fanboism and willful ignorance. Point blank, this is like football fans. Your team sucks, mine is the best. I think its inspired by romance and myth surrounding Uboats. But more specifically in this case, "your guys couldn't have had it near as bad as my guys, therego your theater is crap!". I won't name names, but one user from Texas told me in a PM a few years ago, that US submarines in the pacific was "as signficant as the Lithuanian navy." and then summarized the US sub campaign in the pacific as: "Blah, blah, torpedo troubles, blah blah blah". I never forgot that. I never forgot it, because I'd expect that from someone from Europe, but not from own of my own countrymen! It's one thing to, being aninformed person, having a theater preference. But its quite another to make that preference as an uninformed person. That's just ignorant, and willfully so if you don't devote enough time to study both theaters somewhat equally. But this isn't isolated to this individual, Its actualy fairly commonplace here on subsim. I could probably rattle on, but i think those are the 3 big reasons why the PTO is shat on around here.