[Skybird]

This still does not answer my question. you only say that if people fall for propaganda calling for a Nazi tyranny, it is the losing governments fault - which is a bit too simplistic, for my taste.

You want unlimited free speech. Let's say you get it, the government thus does not fail you, but gives you what you wanted, or better: it does not take freee speech away from you. you are free, then, to use free speech for propagating a new Nazi tyranny, and propagating the banning of free speech. Because the government you doom so easily leaves you that freedom to want that and to speak out for that. The government is not to blame - if anyone is to blame, then you are the one to be blamed.

If free speech gets used to propagate the destruction of free speech, the destruction of the democratic and constitutional order, and installing a new Nazi tyranny like the one we already have had - would that be okay for you? would you accept the outcome? If you do, what would you tell your grandfather's generation for having fought against what you now accept and tolerate?

You evade. A simple answer would be enough. The question is quite easy. do you accept free speech going so far as to reestablish tyrannies of the bast? Do nyou accepot free speech going so far that it demands the desctruction of free speech? Do you accept free speech to be used to topple the constitutonal, democratic, relatovely free state order of the nation in which you reside and that guarantees you a greater ammount of your precious free speech tahn people ever have had in the history of mankind?

Either you do, or you don't.