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Old 07-06-10, 05:55 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet View Post
So if say... rogue elements of the Mexican Military engaged in openly hostile operations, and in numerous cases fired their weapons on and in some cases even killed Federal Agents of the United States there would be nothing wrong with this?
This I did not say and I do not even judge the action you describe. You originally asked whether or not a small illegal force crossing a border for acts of smuggling or crime qualifies for being described as an "invasion". In the case you refer to, it would also be interesting to know if the Mexican do it with knowledge and approaval of their government, or not. In case of the latter, you are dealing with a rebelion in their military, or large scale corruption. actually, at around 3:50 of that video they indicate that the military units involved in these border incidents are in the pockets of Mexicin drug cartels. I strongly doubt that the Mexican government - as long as it is not on the payment list of the cartels, too - ordered and authorised the military to crowss the border to shoot at american agents.

The video is from autumn 2008.

So again, GR, it is nasty, and yes, you should close that border and certainly you have the right to engage those Mexican smugglers and units with weapon'S force. But it is not a milizary invasion in the normal meaning of the word. It is organised crime and corruption. If Mexico cannot get a hold of these events, then this would rate Mexico as a failed state because obviously then anarchy and corruption and organised crime have more influence in that nation than the state and it's institutions have.

If the ammount of ignorrance by the Us goivernment is true, likle the report claims, then this would be a scandal that should lead to politician's heads rolling. "Water rights conflicts"...?

Is there evidence existing that shows those Mexican soldiers wearing official Mexican uniforms when entering the US?
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