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Old 06-29-10, 08:49 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by Schroeder View Post
So you need arms to defend yourself from the government? How would the tyrannous government try to defend itself, ah right they'll use the military. So you will be standing there with your Ar15 and shoot....that M1A2....that AH64 Apache.....that M2 Bradley etc.
Your only chance would be that the military won't shoot at it's own people...and then even a 38 revolver will do the trick with your government. No use for full auto guns at all.
as with most civil war scenarios - certain segments of the military tend to align with the plight of the citizens. Though this is not guaranteed.

I highly doubt you would see many "minute men" with a hunting rifle or a pistol and some Molotov cocktails standing off against a tank.

God knows im not that stupid.

what you would likely see in most modern insurrection / civil war / rebellion scenarios would be guerrilla style tactics and warfare of small forces organized against a much larger force. and sometimes, these small forces are organized by... you guessed it... ex military officers. (See United States Civil War circa 1861.)

this is part of the reason i have always viewed the oath of military personnel with a raised eye brow. The military is supposed to protect the United States from foreign and domestic enemies. They vow allegiance to the president of the United States - when IMHO they should be vowing that allegiance to the people. Why? what happens when a president and his party controlled congress decides we need to be a dictatorship and the military has sworn loyalty to the POTUS? Does that not make this hypothetical president and his congress a domestic enemy?

though i dont view such actions as an armed insurrection as necessary at the moment... there may come a day when such actions are necessary. (however unlikely) - but it wouldnt take many more Bush's and Barry's and congressional power grabs for such an action to become necessary in the minds of some people.

if that paints me as a "nut job" thats just unfortunate. I have been called worse. like i said... i dont condone or encourage insurrection... but im sure there was a time when Geroge Washington, or any of the founding fathers did not condone rebellion against the crown either.

trust me, there are people out there with much more liberal views on taking up arms against the feds... - I'm just not one of them... i just happen to know thats one reason the 2nd amendment exists in the first place.
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