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Originally Posted by goldorak
All true Skybird except that you are forgetting one thing.
Europeans never really wanted Turkey in the union.
It was always the US pressing for this.
With all the problems we have, US ingerence in the european affairs is the last thing we need.
I say it again, for the all the stupid politicians we have, the greatest danger to a unified political and military europe has always been NATO. NATO is the beach head of the US in europe.
It has full filled its role during the cold war but now its just a leftover that does more damage than good.
We need a centralised european military force, without the americans. And NATO is an enourmous obstacle to achieving that goal.
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I haven't forgotten US demands over Turkey at all - in the past I took too much flak that the Us ran a strategy of weakening the EU from within (as a potential rival on nthe world stage) by bringing turkey into the EU, and hoping to strengthen american influence on Turkey at the same time. But when turkey denied passage of US troops heading for Iraq, this should have rang some bells in Washington. maybe it did - but he consequences in thinking were to become even more determined to mistake wishes with reality: since 2003 it seems the Us demanded even louder that those stubborn Europeans should let Turkey in.
No chance, Sammy, never. Not even if Mexico would join the union, for Mexico is culturally quite close to the West, while Turkey is not.