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Old 09-18-05, 02:11 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Skybird
You are basing on false assumption here: maybe because you really cannot imagine other people - me in this case - having far less nationalistic sentiments for their homecountries as you maybe have for yours. I'm neither especially patriotic, nor nationalistic. I'm simply not made for that kind emotions.
I indeed can imagine such people since i have occasionally met them here in my own country as well. They are that way for many reasons ranging from ignorance to narcissism, and often created by the fact they never had to earn any of the benefits our nation gives them. Most do not vote however and they are in the minority in any case.

This should not be confused by the ancient European concept of people and government being two separate entities. A concept bred by centuries of being treated as peasant chattel by kings and dictators for centuries. As a nation of immigrants who have fled such oppressive systems I believe we don't have inherent submissiveness to accept such a situation and God willing we never will.

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I just don't like foul Nazi-cliches beeing used on us, that's as if I would say all americans are KuKluxKlan, all americans are Bush-loaylist, all amercians are this, or that. Or whatveer nationality you want to talk about. All Polish steal. All Russians drink. All Brtish are snobs. All french are softies. Etc.etc. Although you see that different - I don't think I use cliches on your people. I made observations that have formed my perception of the policy of your nation. Because I do not speak to much about your people, but politics. And when I target politics, I do not care if they are German or American or Europeans, they are either solid and well, or they aint. That at times one is aksing why this or that politician or policy receives support or is rejected by a people is only legitimate.
"At times", how about with every one of your posts? I can understand being fed up with the nazi-cliches but your counter attacks come off as just as deliberately biased and all inclusive.
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