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Old 06-09-10, 08:10 AM   #740
NeonSamurai
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring View Post
about the Nato-aspect, it's not a question of Skybird's personal preference but rather of Nato's credibility. Either Nato 'works' as it should or it doesn't. I can guarantee that nations like Finland are keeping a keen eye on this situation and keeping it in mind when thinking about whether or not to join up.
NATO's purpose is not to support member countries in aggressive wars. If that were the case, all of NATO would be in Iraq. If Turkey starts a war with Israel there isn't a chance in heck that the other NATO countries would back them. It may also result in Turkey getting expelled from NATO.

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Second, the idea that Israel is the only 'democracy' in the Middle-East. If all people aren't allowed to, say, demonstrate and get different treatment from the law enforcement then you're not really different from other non-democratic nations. "Israel is not Finland or Canada", as said yesterday by your defence minister Ehud Barak. Very true but in the sense that Israel is a worse country then Finland or Canada.
Well its in general a heck of a lot better then the surrounding countries. Also I think that any people would react in the same way (or worse) if in the same position. Lets say we change the people, instead of Israel being the Jewish homeland, it was the Canadian homeland, or the Finnish homeland. Lets say the neighbors hate us as much, and are doing everything in their power to destroy us, including the usual terror bombings, rocket/mortar attacks on towns and cities, etc. Do you honestly think our populations would act any differently (or even with as much restraint) than Israel does? I sure as heck don't. I mean look at the American reaction to the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

I am not in the least bit surprised that Israel blocks large gatherings, protests, etc. Especially considering the type of people who would exploit such situations, and regularly hide in the civilian population, and constantly use them as human shields (like setting up military targets right beside schools, or on top of residential apartments), from which to launch terror attacks.
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