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Originally Posted by L.T

I love the "good vs bad" angle....

¨why.....because there is only 1 bad one and its all us humans....

I love the "Islam is bad".....

why....because Saladin the great alowed the cristians to leave Jerusalem...then our western great king named Richard comes around and slaugters any muslim he can find...

We westerners are so good and have the right to judge others....

We dont keep people in camps and abuse them

We dont "kidnap" people to fly them to interigation

We dont ocupy other countrys

We have a effective UN that realy help out in the 3rd world...

If we dont get something we dont give something. Half the damn world looks by when populations are suffering. How many of us are living in a place where you are occupied by another nation. Look at what land you have are being build on by those who occupys it.

No one helps you, you are left alone. How do you fight a konventional army with freedomfighters, how do you get the message out to the world. I will not accept terrorism, but that dont meen that i cant understand it...

You live in a world where everytime someone tryes to do something a big nation puts in a veto. You are fighting one that are buing weapons to kill you from that big country, again money...

Now you are weak, and confused about how to fight. Then a man with a beard comes and say, give your life for the profet and the people, show the world that you will fight an die..

When you dont live in a country where everyday is a fight its damn easy to sit down and throw everyone in the same basket...

Kids throwing stones at tanks oooh let us help them. When the kids get some guns they are terrorists lets kill them...

Im fed up with westerners sitting behind there computers and judging around 70% of the global population because of the actions of few. There are terrorists, but there are also those who just fight for the right to live on a small piece of land, but noooo they are all bad people.

And half the bloody terrorists got there freaking traning from instructors of western countrys......maby it is time to think that us pride world westerners maby is the cause for a great deal of the trouble because of national egos and money...

I like sven as much as i like Ali, i dont judge people from skin colour or there religion. If Ali respect me i will respect him. As long we treat others "national or international" as second rate people we will have to fight...

Have anyone of you had the thought that what if the Arab leage gets enough of the pasitivity in the UN and deside its enough??...and how can you blame them.

We ad so much fuel to the fire that the terrorists come from because we dont do **** when one of "us" steps out of line...

A man said at some time ago, that you cant put a price on a humans life, well that is what we do every day. Who cares about that woman killed in the middle east, the weapon and ammo used give us 2 jobs and some export benefits....But that womans children and husbond will look at who to blame, first there is those using the guns and then they look at the one giving the users there guns....becuase the one giving the guns are not doing anything to make sure that the user of the gun dont use it to kill those not fighting the occupants...

L.T

Good points....
But...
Westerners don't usually call for jihad when someone draws caricature of Jesus...
Westerns don't usually are ready o commit suicidal attack in the name of Jesus. They dont crash 747 in Mecca.
Or USA or Israel isn't calling for total destruction of let say Iran.

When you blow up a bus full of civilians in middle of Jerusalem because you don't want to compromise but only deepen the hatred you are terrorist.
When you pay a kid 50$ to throw a stone on a tank what that this make you?
When you pay a family 50000$ for her son to commit suicidal bombing what is that?
What kind of mentality is that when the same family is celebrating her son death as he became a shahid in heaven.
When you fire 100$ missile to center of Israeli town and then cry out loud when you get back million$ half ton laser guided bomb you are peace activist?-Please shoot something smaller and cheaper its not fair.
When you call in mosque for destruction of country you live in and you emigrated into willingly what that you make you?

As for Palestinians they are just a tool and means of a war to discredit and bring down Israel.
Some Arab nations will do all they can to keep this conflict going...when Gaza runs out of stones they will try to ship them in ...
When they catch wind of Israeli Palestinian agreement they will intensify terror not caring for simple citizens since they are shahids in the holly fight.

Im not saing that Islam is bad but it is corrupted.