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Old 06-02-10, 03:33 AM   #30
Bubblehead1980
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And you seem to have missed my point, which was that your political diatribe sounds just like the political diatribes from 200 and 100 years ago. I didn't agree with Bush going into Iraq, but all that means is that I disagreed. People who really trashed Bush for that move hated him long before - Iraq was just the excuse they needed to give their hatred validation - at least in their own minds.

It's the same here. I'm no fan of Obama, but your obvious hatred seems to predate anything he's actually done.

"The founders would have hated" this or that is what every generation says about their own politicians, at least the ones they disagree with. They themselves had as many different opinions as there were people to have them. Jefferson and Hamilton hated each other with a passion. Aaron Burr managed to alienate Jefferson and his entire party, but did he really deserve to have Jefferson launch a vendetta against him?

I have my own opinions about what's good and bad for America, but I don't actually air them much because the one thing I have learned over the years is that I could be wrong. It doesn't matter which side of whatever issue they happen to be on; my beef is always with people who are convinced they are right, and therefore become incapable of having a real discussion about pretty much anything.
Steve, I did not vote for him and knew he was full of BS from reading his books , examining his record(or what little he had) but I vowed to give him a chance and I did.I approved of him reversing the ban on Federal money for stemcell research.I agreed with the troop surge in Afghanistan.I disliked his decision for closing Guantanamo Bay but figured he would not and would believe it when when it actually happens.I refused to to speak ill of him for a long time but things just kept coming ranging from the wacko leftists like Jones, Sunstein etc he allows to hold top positions in his admin to his apology tour and bowing to the saudi king, then having the nerve to let his muppet looking propaganda minister come out and try to say oh he was just leaning down.I saw it, millions of others did, it was a freaking bow.Then you add in the stimulus, that wretched health care bill, the lies and cheating etc, bailouts of GM, nominating Sotomayor to the Supreme Court and the list goes on and on.

No hate here, this guy just does not need to be President because he is damaging this country and if he is allowed to continue, possibly damaging us beyond repair.I am in my 20's and just out of college, starting Law School in the Fall, things he is doing will affect people my age the most as the next decade or so rolls in and we are trying to get our lives really going while dealing with the the crap his policies will send our way in the form of taxes, inflation, excessive spending, federal power grabs, appointing racist people to supreme court, trying to socially engineer the military, his mistreatement of Israel etc The US is in danger of ending up like Greece if we remain under Obama.Sounds crazy but it's possible.

I am always aware that I could be wrong, any sane person should be aware of that.However, there is so much evidence against Obama, it's just painfully obvious he is wrong.A large number of Americans feel this way according to his slide in the polls and he could care less because he feels as if the citizens are idiots and he knows what is best.

P.S. What the founders wanted is pretty clear in the Constitution
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