[Skybird]

All those wellmeaning, better-knowing philantropic Hamas-sympathesizers I would like to see answreing one question, after all this talking of how illegal it is that Israel tries to contain an enemy who has sworn to kill it.

If they are expected not launch wars and devastate Gaza in an (probably fruitless) attempt to kill Hamas at least dig them out and chase them away, and if Israel also shall not be allowed to isolate Hamas and to reduce or prevent Hamas being resupplied with goods it could make military or propagandistic use of, and if Israel shall not run a blockade, and shall not return fire when being attacked with rockets aimed at it's people -

what the hell are they allowed to do then to defend themselves from Hamas...??? Disappearing from the face of the planet? Die in silence when Palestine terror rockets hit them?

Many Westerners are so outraged over Israeli media manipulation. But Palestinian propaganda for some strange reason almost never gets critically questioned.

I think, in the end many Europeans hate Israel as much as many Arabs, for being Jewish, and for being there, just that the first hate it passively, and the latter actively. Arabs and Persians want to overthrow Israel by their own deed. Europeans are willing to let it happen. Both are partners in crime founded on antisemitism.

As far as Israel is concerned, some years ago I wrote in an essay that the historic circumstances of it'S foundation were choosen stupid, and that the position of Israel is so very exposed and hard to defend that in the long run it's strategic chnaces for survival tend to point towards nill. I was laughed about. Some time later I pointed out that military historian van Crefeld thinks similiar (no wonder he is so much hated in Israel), and again I came under fire. But you see, until Israel falls, I see no alternative to Israel trying to survive - what else could be expected of it? That it just raises its hands and says "shoot me"?

Also, people thinking that if the Palestinians would get their own state or if Israel would simply disappear, the great love epidemic wouold break out in the ME and there would be peace all of a sudden, only illustrate that they do not know that in that region a militant conflict is burning since centuries that goes far beyond the Israeli state, that is a thing between Sunni and Shia, and in which Israel and the Palestinians' fate play a remarkably small role only. Currently, Iran and Saudi Arabia fight a proxy war over Palestine. with Israel and the Palestinians gone, that easily could become a hot war again.

There is a reason why several arab states have arranged themselves with the existence of Israel. they have learned that they could live with it without being put into danger by it.

With Iran, that is something completely different.