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Originally Posted by Cambaz
And also Skybird you are %100 right about AKP issues and your advice is given to us many years ago by M. Kemal ATATURK but again I am telling as a member of armed forces in my country no one can able to change the rules and orders given by M. Kemal ATATURK...
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No? the AKP has seized the most important and highest political offices in your country. They work on getting the power to chnage the constitution. By the valid laws of your country, Erdoghan should not be president, but should be in jail, but he isn't - why? The structure and the offices of your national leadership, and the administrational level, slowly but constantly get eroded and stripped of the intentions Atatürk's political vision of secularism. Islamic views creep in everywhere, you can already see it in the ratio between males and females beign selected for higher offices in the administration and public service. The pressure by the EU for "reforms" additionally erodes the safeguarding function of the military, and the High Court. I agree that Ataturk's Turkey was no truly democratic Turkey, and today much of the portest against the AKP derives from those social camps that have most to lose from the kemalistic elites loosing power. But still, that way turkey still was lightyears better off than if it becomes what the AKP tries to turn it into. Also it is a better neighbour for europe. We should focus on trade and by that lift the living conditions for the rural population (nowhere in Europe I saw so much poverty and misery than in Anatolia, it is a hard life there). But I honestly think we should leave it to doing that. Often, peaceful coexistence is not best served when trying to deny differences, but when accepting them.
Ignoring the way the mission went, and focussing on the fact that they decided for the raid - what would have been the alternative? Aerial bombardement? Naval torpedoing? Hardly. Lifting the blockade? Unacceptable. The only alternative would have been the israeli offer to clear the goods in Aschdod and then deliver them from there via land route to Gaza, after having been controlled for weapons, terrorists and goods of military use for Hamas.
And this the organisersa denied days before, and the denied again in that radio communication in that night just before the raid.
A blockade is a blockade. It is not there for no reason, but to prevent items that could make military use to Israel'S enemy-in-war, the Hamas, reaching Hamas.
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You are not with the Turkish submarine force, by chance? I once knew a guy at university, who had served on a Turkish sub. Another Turkish guy who accompanied me on some of my travels in the ME was with the Turkish navy, too, but I did never know what exactly he did. And last, I strayed into Wing Tsun for short time when studying in Osnabrück in the 90s, he was from Turkey too, and years later went back there and I think he became trainer of your national team, at least so I was told.