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Originally Posted by Cambaz
you are missing a important point in here AKP in NOT TURKIYE I did not choose them, can you believe a person that says "The mosques are our barracks, the minarets are our bayonets, the domes are our helmets and the faithful are our soldiers."yes I accept ignorance and darkness in a high level in my country but this does not means Turkiye is a Rogue country and guilty please stop it...
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I see the numerical relation between relgious conservatives and the somewhat "modernised burgoisie" different thahn you, then. The perception when just looking at the huge cities, necessarily is misleading, since it is only a small fraction living there, around 20% or less. and even in the cities, the AKP-critcial camp is not stronger than 40-50%. The nation-wide majority of the population lives in the poor rural areas, and there religious conservatism was extremely high 15 years ago, I saw it everywhere, and there must be a reason why protests against the AKP focusses on the cities, but is only rarely, if ever, to be seen in the rural areas.
The power of the AKP lies not in the cities, but in the rural areas with the majority of the Turkish population, and with claiming political protection of democratic principles for a project of re-establishing stronger islamic authority again in order to then overcome these democratic structures.
Islam and it'S orthodxy slept for some decades, during the Attatürk experiment, as I call it. It never was truly gone or truly reduced, it just kept out of sight while the pressure on it was high. Now, when the cultural climate changed with the AKP's victory, it has woken up again and claims for itself again what it always saw as it'S own: the legitimate control over the fate of theTurkish people, the dominance of religion over the political dimension of the state. and Erdoghan himself, I am very sure, dreams of fulfilling with politics and demographics what the Osman empire failed to achieve with war and conquest: bringing europe under the influence of Islam, with Turkey as the priviliged envoy, and using european poltiicians of turksih origin as trojan horses to enforce Turkish interest in their hosting nations' inner policies. I remind you of that secret conference that Erdoghan had hosted some weeks ago and where he assembled turkish migrants who hold political offices i European nations.
For fairness and deserved credit I must point out that the Turkish-German politicians he invited refused to come and instead were sending back some very sounding and indignant replies. But many influential Turkish-German entrepreneurs accepted nevertheless, many with ties to - surprise surprise - Milli Görus.